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Every day we get closer to an Orwellian society. The United Kingdom may already be one.

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 55 points 3 days ago

US big tech is influencing europe to do the same as the us, and opening them up for absolute power.

the only way out is to stop being US vassals.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

No. This is a very naive & dated way of thinking about the world of today. We don’t really have distinct borders distinguishing politicians at that level.

It’s more accurate to say the Davos group is ruling all western nations. What looks like separate world leaders and parties is actually one world-spanning organization of those with power. And what’s worse, they’re all Nazis and technocrats.

The Nazis learned from WW2. If you invade a country, the people fight back. If you groom and install/bribe your own people into leadership positions, the people just let it happen.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

big US capitalists are the ones ruling western nations (and the third world, through neocolonialism). other western oligarchs might play a role.

in this case, europe doesn't have its own big tech that compares to the US's, and i don't think they are allowed to.

i don't think they are relying on a formal, yearly summit to do so either. the real politics are made behind close doors, and i doubt there's a public list anywhere of the people coming to agreements on how to direct their power.

i will agree they are fascists who learned their lesson from nazi mistakes.

[-] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

They don’t need their own tech companies. Europe has its own oligarchs. They’re the problem.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

being independent is better, but oligarchs are a real problem aren't they. we really gotta figure this shit out.

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago

I'm not going to defend the US and it's tech oligarchs, they are all shit, but the way things are going, the EU and the UK are currently in way worse shape than the US in terms of all this 1984 bullshit.

No country is safe from this anymore, and we may very well be looking at the worse time to be alive when it comes to privacy, regardless of where you live.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I highly doubt it's the worse time. There used to be no concept of privacy you lived in a small town everyone knew everything and you lived in a one room house and familys had on bed for everything. There would have been no privacy at all.

[-] jjlinux@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

You do make a good point. However, consider the fact that you could talk with your wife, kids, friends or anyone for that matter, and the only way someone else would find out was if one of the parties involved told someone else or if you were too loud for someone else to listen. Now we have to go fully out of our way to keep anything under wraps, and even then, there's no guarantee that nobody else knows.

I firmly believe this is the worst the world has ever been for privacy and individualism, and everything points to that everything is going to be worse moving forward.

Additionally, it's highly that any of us lived through those times you mentioned, so I'm speaking from my own life experience, and I'm over half a century old.

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 2 points 3 days ago

That's an opinion lol

We deff have it better now with corpo and goverment replacing family and the hood

[-] tantamoq@feddit.nl 5 points 3 days ago

As a US citizen, pray for us 🙏

[-] pineapple@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago

The olygarch's have ruined everything again?

[-] Toribor@corndog.social 6 points 3 days ago

The tree of freedom must periodically be watered with the blood of tyrants.

[-] Auli@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Also the problem with wealth. No more overthrowing the rich happening.

[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 0 points 3 days ago
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