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[-] logicbomb@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

I suspect that women aren't dating conservative men, not because they want to punish them, but because they would personally rather not date a horrible person.

It's a pretty bad spiral. Lonely men develop more extremist views, which makes them less attractive to women, which makes them lonelier, and they get even more extremist views, etc.

Like, if you lined all of the single men up who vote against women's rights, and asked an equal number of women to sacrifice their own happiness to date them, a certain number of those horrible men would turn a corner and start to act like a human. But who is going to give up their own happiness to fix some broken asshole stranger? Very few people.

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

You can't put that on the women. Men have got to get their shit together. Just show a bit of empathy, bro! It's not that hard, humans are literally wired for it. It's just that capitalism is reinforcing humankind's worst impulses.

[-] Junkers_Klunker@feddit.dk 5 points 1 week ago

Absolutely don’t put that on women, but it is a mental illness so you can’t ask them to get their shit together they need help.

[-] Zachariah@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

other men need to step in to provide the help they need

[-] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago

Being the same sex as someone who needs help with mental health doesn't magically make you a qualified therapist/psychiatrist for them.

This is a ridiculous statement.

[-] ClownStatue@piefed.social 1 points 1 week ago

Lonely people need all sorts of help. Sometimes just having someone to talk to is enough. Plus, a lot of men have a hard time asking for help, especially for something as “unmanly” as loneliness. This can make someone offering help significantly more effective. Additionally, for a number of people, it’s just easier to open up to someone of the same sex.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

except t hey are opening in places where right wing groups fester, or they only do it with pick up groups, which reinforces thier insecurities.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

mental illness is when you have actual disorder that is diagnosed bya proper physician, lonely is a mental illness

[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 5 points 1 week ago

There is a whole industries to radicalize men. They try to get them hooked with "women don't want to date me" and get them on the social media conveyor belt towards becoming a good right wing radical that's immune to any logic.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 1 week ago

Pick up scenes, and now right wing grifters sole job is to gather as much conservative voters as possible to sustain conservative governments.

[-] zarathustra0@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Men have got to get their shit together. Just show a bit of empathy, bro! It’s not that hard, humans are literally wired for it.

There's a concept from the autism community called the double empathy problem which posits that counter to the mainstream narrative that people with autism are lacking/missing empathy, autistic people do have empathy. The theory suggests that the brains of autistic individuals processes information and stimuli so dramatically differently from 'neurotypical' people that neurotypical people are typically unable to accurately understand what is going on in the neurodiverse mind and vice versa. It suggests that empathy seems to most easily work neurodiverse-to-neurodiverse and neurotypical-to-neurotypical which to me makes sense.

Now there are certainly plenty of people in the modern world who seem unable to display any form of empathy, but this theory does highlight that empathy isn't a binary and depends on your ability to understand the mind of another.

There is no single way to be empathetic, and it is entirely possible that one person thinks they are being empathetic when in fact they are being antagonistic to the other. My point is that empathy can look different to different groups.

[-] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

I suspect that women aren’t dating conservative men, not because they want to punish them, but because they would personally rather not date a horrible person.

Considering how many women remain in an abusive relationship, I'm not sure that conservative men have less chances.

[-] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 1 week ago

Its called Internalised Misogyny

Women who experience internalized misogyny may express it through minimizing the value of women, mistrusting women, and showing gender bias in favor of men. Women, after observing societal beliefs which demean the value and skills of women repeatedly, eventually internalize those misogynistic beliefs and apply them to themselves and other women.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago

incels are probably looking in the wrong places for them, there is something for everyone. just not something that can be attainable for you, but attainable for someone else.

[-] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 week ago

Of course. There are for sure women so stupid to go with a misogynist virgin prick.

After all, we live in a world where some Americans voted for Trump and got their families raided by ICE a few months later.

[-] damnedfurry@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I suspect that women aren’t dating conservative men

Well, there are plenty of conservative women too, so that can't tell the whole story, can it?

Looks like conservative men and liberal women are in similar boats, statistically:

In broad terms, there are only 0.6 single liberal young men for each single liberal young woman; likewise, only 0.5 single conservative young women exist for every conservative young man. Statistically, in other words, about half of these ideologically minded young singles face the prospect of failing to find a partner who shares their politics.

This implies the liberal men are dating the conservative women, lol.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

BUT, exceptions also occur, woman do date horrible men, if they are horrible themselves or they make some poor choices themselves. thats why incels have no excuse there something for everyone. they are just looking in the wrong place, looking for woman in areas that are more liberal of course they will have more resistance, or they are looking for woman that are only interested income/attractiveness maybes a little harder poc-wise.

[-] SL3wvmnas@discuss.tchncs.de -3 points 1 week ago

Lonely men develop more extremist views

Ah yes, the lonely man® with the agency of a fucking houseplant.

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There is absolutely a systemic pressure radicalizing these men. It's always partly their fault, but nowhere near fully

Remember that this process almost always happens before they turn 20, and usually to young teens

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