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I really wish there was a better way to secure bicycles. Most of the time I choose to take the car or motorcycle is because I got a nice bicycle after my old cheapo got stolen from what I thought was a safe location.
I'm not even talking about lack of bicycle racks in many parking lots, but the fact that a $50 angle grinder goes through just about any chain/u-lock in about 30 seconds.
I know this because I had to cut off my own U-lock after assholes tried to drill through the lock on mine and ruined it. Also, nobody even looked twice at a guy using an incredibly loud grinder generating a ton of sparks in the middle of a retail parking lot.
The solution is bike lockers. It’s an important piece of public infrastructure that often gets overlooked.
Do they often have those in places other than subway/train transit hubs? I’ve never seen them anywhere else here (US southwest). And honestly I didn’t even know they were a thing before I moved here, public infrastructure in the US is so fucked.
They are usually near major train and bus hubs. There’s plenty around Vancouver and I’ve seen them in a couple places around LA, too. That said, outside of major progressive cities, they are practically non-existent, especially in the US.
I've never even heard of anything like this. I don't think I've ever even seen a bike rack that is under cover. And we always have these bike racks that are made to look like bikes, which is cute but not very useful.
I think this is Japan I'm thinking of, but they have these amazing underground automated parking spaces for bicycles. You load your bike into this elevator-type thing and get back a ticket, and the elevator takes the bike underground and deposits it in a sort of cubbyhole. Completely safe and takes up no space above-ground except for the little kiosk. Not a fucking chance in hell that a US city would ever invest in something like that.
Locks will only ever be a minor deterrent imo. The problem is that police in most places don't even try to go after bicycle thefts and the would be criminals know that.
If governments took bicycle theft as seriously as they did horse theft in the 19th century, then few criminals would even attempt to steal a bicycle if it had some basic protection like a cheap lock + a camera pointed at the bicycle rack.
What even happens to nice bikes that are stolen? They certainly don't show up on the second-hand market for cheap.
I keep around a few beater bikes. If one gets stolen then oh well I'm out $75, which is less than 1 tank of gas.
Where do you live that $75 is a tank of gas?
I thinks that's about right for the UK, but at least one of my bikes is considerably cheaper.
Begs the question, why th efuck does anyone drive anywhere in this cuntry? A lot of severe mobility disabilities I think.
Yeah, I'll have to find a new wife if I try to put a few beater bikes in the garage. It'll get expensive fast.
Get rid of the car and you'll have plenty of room in the garage.
We have a kid in a wheelchair. Car is not optional.
On a personal level, get theft insurance on your bike. Costs me like 150 €/y for a 2000 € ebike, although some insurance companies do not cover street parking in some cities.
On a societal level, there are things law enforcement could do to make fencing less lucrative. Giving a shit about theft reports for one. For two, my city pays to get everyone's frame engraved with their national registration number, which will get my bike back to me if the cops find it and it makes the bike a bit less valuable because most people aren't looking to buy a clearly stolen bike.
Bike thieves move fast, and a lot of time they are in cars, it's not always some random guy on the street. I saw a brand new Lexus pull up to a bike at a red light in a fancy neighborhood, guy was actively in the road and parked blocking the lane, and stole the bike in literally 40seconds and was gone. No license plates. I called it in but I doubt they did anything about it. And I'll never risk my life for a bike lol.
There are angle grinder resistant u-locks which can last up to 5 min and waste several disks. They aren't cheap though and the thieves also could just cut through the rack.
https://thebestbikelock.com/security/angle-grinder-proof-bike-lock/
You're just incentivizing bike thieves to carry plasma cutters around.
Bike cages are great, but the haters would rather spend on a 100-car parking lot than a 100-bike cage.
I used to live in center city Philadelphia. One day I was walking down the street and I noticed a big guy on the other side with big loose shorts on walk up to a bicycle that was chained up to a signpost. In one smooth motion he whipped a big pair of bolt cutters out of his shorts, snipped through the chain, hopped on the bike and rode off down a side street. Like, I didn't even have time to think about doing anything or even yelling. Plus it's Philly - he might have ripped my fucking eyeballs out (Phillystines have a thing about the phrase "I'll rip yer fucken eyeballs out" although you see surprisingly few eyeball-less people walking around here).
While it doesn't really help with the stolen part, it helps with the recovery: put a tracker on it.
Without cops, you're fighting a bunch of junkies to get your bike back. Cops looked at me like I was an idiot when I tried to file a report for my stolen bike.
But what would you recommend? I have a bunch of PebbleBee trackers on my stuff, but I can't think of any way to hide any of those on the bike.
Not gonna lie, I wouldn't know how to manage seeing a guy use a grinder on some bikes.
I wanted a folding bike for this purpose but it would only be good for going to work and back. I can't just walk around a mall or something carrying a folding bike :/
I have a folding bike and that thing is fucking heavy. I can't imagine actually trying to carry it any great distance.
Just make sure his grinder/ knife/bullet hits you in the foam+plastic bike helmet. you'll be golden.