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first time using linux, how screwed am I? (lemmy.world)
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recently i just finished building a new pc. mostly for gaming since my only exposure to linux is steam os and i heard its uses arch with kde plasma so i try to emulate it as close as i can. however soon i realized how different it is and it requires more setup than i initially thought. i spent a whole day or two setting it up and i read now im responsible on maintaining it, what does it mean? is it just finding and testing drivers? or system update? what is the easiest way to do it? and what i getting myself into?

when i was about to install steam i found a tutorial on it with 3 - 4 pages full of text and was a bit overwhelmed, i decided just set it up using discover with flatpak, the problem is when i was about to find out how to do that i read mostly people really hate when you ask how to enable it in arch, is it really bad? should i just use konsole instead?

im not very tech savvy and at first I was really reluctant to use konsole but since i decided to use arch its inevitable that i have to use konsole and so far its not that bad, yet.

I'm just wondering for the long term, should i just change distro? or i should just powertrough arch and see where it goes.

thank you for your time.

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thank you for all the kind words, support and information everyone. i decided that i'll stick with arch until it breaks and ill see either i retry arch or try different linux flavors. i never feels so excited about os since i was messing around in win 2000

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[-] folaht@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I think you're better off with CachyOS than Bazzite to be honest.
It's Arch-based, comes with an installer with KDE Plasma as default and on top of that is optimized for performance and geared towards gaming.

The only reason people are recommending Bazzite
is because CachyOS is only a year old, while Bazzite is two years old,
unless someone can prove me otherwise.
In any case Bazzite is RHEL-based, so it won't have the AUR or pacman,
which are the two things that set Arch-based Operating Systems apart from the rest of the pack.
AUR and pacman are superior to all other repositories and package managers.

[-] pyssla@quokk.au 5 points 2 days ago

is because CachyOS is only a year old, while Bazzite is two years old, unless someone can prove me otherwise.

CachyOS has been installable (at least) as early as November of 2021. Its GitHub page is even older, going as far back as October of 2021.

Bazzite, on the other hand, is at least a year younger as it dates back to December of 2022.

Bazzite is RHEL-based

Bazzite is based on Fedora Atomic. FYI, Fedora is not based on RHEL. Quite the opposite, actually, as Fedora is "upstream" of RHEL.

it won't have the AUR or pacman, which are the two things that set Arch-based Operating Systems apart from the rest of the pack.

Come out of your cave, fam. Distrobox has been out for years now. And, with it, everyone has access to every other repo (including the AUR). We've finally evolved.

[-] folaht@lemmy.ml 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

CachyOS has been installable (at least) as early as November of 2021. Its GitHub page is even older, going as far back as October of 2021. Bazzite, on the other hand, is at least a year younger as it dates back to December of 2022.

Thank you for that info, but then why are so many advising Bazzite instead of CachyOS?
CachyOS is Arch-based, Bazzite is not.

Bazzite is based on Fedora Atomic. FYI, Fedora is not based on RHEL. Quite the opposite, actually, as Fedora is “upstream” of RHEL.

And thank you for that info.
So Red Hat decided to put Fedora in front and put RHEL in the back?
Red Hat used to be the base OS of Fedora, no?

Come out of your cave, fam. Distrobox has been out for years now. And, with it, everyone has access to every other repo (including the AUR). We’ve finally evolved.

Again, thank you for that info.

But I don't think any container app would diversify distros or make Fedora distros more popular.
In fact, it probably will lead to AUR-based distros becoming even more popular,
because one will have access to all the other smaller repos,
as AUR becomes the standard.

[-] pyssla@quokk.au 1 points 5 hours ago

Thank you for the kind words, fam. Much appreciated 😊!

why are so many advising Bazzite instead of CachyOS?

Assuming you're referring to why so many others recommended Bazzite to OP instead of CachyOS. I believe it stems from the following line of OP:

mostly for gaming since my only exposure to linux is steam os and i heard its uses arch with kde plasma so i try to emulate it as close as i can.

And even if the following is true:

CachyOS is Arch-based, Bazzite is not.

It's simply undeniable that Bazzite is closer to SteamOS compared CachyOS, by virtue of how it -just like SteamOS- doesn't deliver the traditional model of desktop Linux but instead goes all-in on a new paradigm. A simple example to point this out would be how both SteamOS and Bazzite default to automatic updates:

CachyOS, by contrary, doesn't. Though it ain't hard to enable this: https://github.com/CachyOS/cachy-update?tab=readme-ov-file#the-systemd-timer

This is all tied to the aforementioned paradigm shift. I can name a lot more similarities if you happen to be interested.

So Red Hat decided to put Fedora in front and put RHEL in the back? Red Hat used to be the base OS of Fedora, no?

It seems that RHEL has been based on Fedora for over twenty years now 😅. As Red Hat Linux seems to predate Fedora, perhaps it was based on RHEL once upon a time, but it hasn't been for a long time. Regardless, documentation on this event seems to be relatively sparse. As such, I wasn't able to arrive at a definitive conclusion. Please feel free to complete my 'research' 😜!

But I don't think any container app would diversify distros

Sorry, I didn't quite get this. Do you mean that *"container app"*s will not succeed in decentralizing efforts and instead have the opposite effect?

or make Fedora distros more popular.

Perhaps you misunderstood me, but to be clear: Distrobox is basically available on every distro out there. So it's not a Fedora-thing to begin with. (Though, it has to be said that I've yet to see it being better utilized/integrated than uBlue's images.)

In fact, it probably will lead to AUR-based distros becoming even more popular, because one will have access to all the other smaller repos, as AUR becomes the standard.

Hmm..., I don't quite understand why you think like that. There's a lot that goes into making distros unique and deserving of their existence. Strictly limiting their appeal to the size of their respective (user) repos is honestly a disservice to the grandiose effort put out by our respected F(L)OSS developers.

Though, I kinda wonder... Why are you even praising Arch for this? Shouldn't you root for NixOS instead as they're the ones to possess the biggest repo?

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