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submitted 1 day ago by Cikos@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

recently i just finished building a new pc. mostly for gaming since my only exposure to linux is steam os and i heard its uses arch with kde plasma so i try to emulate it as close as i can. however soon i realized how different it is and it requires more setup than i initially thought. i spent a whole day or two setting it up and i read now im responsible on maintaining it, what does it mean? is it just finding and testing drivers? or system update? what is the easiest way to do it? and what i getting myself into?

when i was about to install steam i found a tutorial on it with 3 - 4 pages full of text and was a bit overwhelmed, i decided just set it up using discover with flatpak, the problem is when i was about to find out how to do that i read mostly people really hate when you ask how to enable it in arch, is it really bad? should i just use konsole instead?

im not very tech savvy and at first I was really reluctant to use konsole but since i decided to use arch its inevitable that i have to use konsole and so far its not that bad, yet.

I'm just wondering for the long term, should i just change distro? or i should just powertrough arch and see where it goes.

thank you for your time.

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[-] pyssla@quokk.au 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

~~You do sound obtuse.~~

~~Hehe :P . Please feel free to clarify what you meant with the repos being limiting (or something). I'm genuinely interested to know.~~ See Edit down below

I still think bazzite is the wrong suggestion for newcomers

It's your absolute prerogative to believe/think/state whatever you wish. However, I don't think you've yet made a convincingly compelling case. You absolutely don't have to, but if you've got more to say on the subject matter, then please do so for the sake of (potentially) enlightening others.

I don’t care if you like my opinion.

Good.., I suppose. Neither should you care anyways 😜.


Edit: I only now noticed that you had edited your previous post. My apologies.

Having access to the AUR allows me access to much wider array of software.

Agreed. I also occasionally access stuff from there through my dedicated Arch distrobox. I occasionally make use of my Ubuntu distrobox, or Alpine distrobox as well. Thanks to Distrobox (and similar technologies), it has become an absolutely glorious experience to not be limited by the distro's repos. Instead, I can make use of whatever repos are out there. Granted; Distrobox is not exclusive to Fedora Atomic, but you'd be hard-pressed to find another distro on which it works as well as it does on uBlue's offerings.

[-] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 0 points 23 hours ago

Lemmy isn’t a courtroom sweaty, chill out.

[-] pyssla@quokk.au 2 points 22 hours ago

FWIW, I have edited my previous comment.

Anyhow, if you wish to disengage, then I'd like to wish you a great day. If not, then I'm (patiently) awaiting your return 🙂.

[-] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago

Honestly it sounds like you’ve mastered a completely new kind of operating system, based on Linux but evolving in its own direction, and there’s probably only a handful of people using it at that level. It’s pretty cool to learn more about, so I appreciate what you’ve had to say.

I already know and love traditional Linux and don’t see a compelling reason to change, and as I’ve repeated, I don’t think it’s the way to point a newcomer.

[-] pyssla@quokk.au 3 points 21 hours ago

Honestly it sounds like you’ve mastered a completely new kind of operating system, based on Linux but evolving in its own direction

Thanks for the compliment 😅. I do think there's some truth in it being a new kind of Linux-based OS. But it's not as big of a departure like say NixOS. Heck, I'd argue it's grounded within a relatively basic premise: What's the minimal amount of effort required to make our current Linux systems attain desirable qualities like being reprovisionable and anti-hysteresis? The whole bootc-shebang is just leveraging existing container technologies (I'm sure you're familiar with Docker) to the Linux you run on your computer.

and there’s probably only a handful of people using it at that level.

If we would (perhaps arbitrarily) choose for "that level" to be "crazy enough to create and run their own image"^[As that's most likely my biggest Fedora Atomic achievement.], then it's true that our numbers are probably only in the order of hundreds. Though, the knowledge required to build your own image is (almost) equivalent to the knowledge one ought to have to create their own OCI image; you know, the very same used for Docker, the container technology that represents a billion dollar industry.

It’s pretty cool to learn more about, so I appreciate what you’ve had to say.

I appreciate it. I like conversing with you as well 😊!

I already know and love traditional Linux and don’t see a compelling reason to change

That's perfectly valid.

I don’t think it’s the way to point a newcomer.

Please allow me to explain why I differ on this:

The beginner has no preconceived notion on how Linux is 'supposed' to work. As such, they will adapt to whatever you throw at it. Be it Mint, Arch or Fedora Atomic. Heck, it's undeniable that out of these, Fedora Atomic works the closest like their phone. Which has undoubtedly become the most recognizable OS for your average Joe.

FYI, Fedora Silverblue was my foray into Linux. The first one or two weeks definitely gave me a hard time, but that was over three years ago. If I was able to survive in such a 'hostile' environment, then newcomers should have absolutely no trouble getting onboard with the introduction of Bazzite (and the other uBlue images).

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