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Both regulation and social safety nets run counter to the concept of a free market and a free market is central to the definition of Capitalism.
That's like saying "The best form of travel is unrestrained forward acceleration" with the caveat that it must be combined with the ability to break and steer.
No, it’s like saying that the best form of transportation is some form of forward locomotive force kept in check by brakes and steering. Like, you know actual cars.
Basically you’re looking at a Toyota Corolla and saying “What? Some of its parts move it forward, and some of its parts stop it from moving? That’s a total contradiction! It’s central to the definition of a car that it move forward!”
Yes regulation and social safety nets run counter, that’s the point.
There’s no one concept which makes for a good system in a totally undiluted form. Pure centralized economy: disaster. Pure capitalism, disaster.
Capitalism tempered by regulation and socialism: a balance of economic dynamism and humanist restraint.
The core of your argument seems to be that the only form of capitalism is unrestrained capitalism and we just don’t agree on those semantics. I believe a free market system can be governed and taxed to support social welfare. You believe that capitalism can only be unrestrained. Well, my version of reality is everywhere we look: both Europe and the US are examples of free market economies with some safety net and regulation attached. Europe is stronger on the latter two but the US is hardly at zero.
Capitalism is inherently about vice exploutation and getting around rukes, though. You can't say 'capitalism but virtuous'; that's nonsense. 'Capitalism but restrained' translates to reality as 'caputalism but only fir the first five minutes before breaking everything'.
Adam Smith, the father of capitalism, was pretty clear that a free market still needs protection.
Modern neoliberal capitalism is mostly based on Friedrich Hayek who thought that any regulation to the market is harmful. Smith is long overdue.
During a party meeting, Margareth Thetcher literally pulled out a book of Hayek out of her handbag, slammed it on the table and declared "This is what we believe".
Adam Smith is long dead and so is whatever he defined his ideal capitalism. The rich, the powerful, the most diehard proponents of capitalism... They are all pushing for less regulation, fewer social safety nets, lower taxes, lower labor cost. They absolutely don't give a flying fuck about their workers 'ability to provide for their families.
That's the end result of profit and greed being the driving force of the economy and markets. We're just back to a new flavor of feudalism.
Look at the scandinavian countries. Arguably the best example of how to do capitalism, regulation and socialism. Seems to work out for their citizens.
So the best way to do capitalism is to have less of it than other nations