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It feel like we’re losing to Google, day by day. They aren’t killing AOSP directly, but they are making it useless step by step.

Now it’s Google Play Services, Play Integrity checks, installation source checks… more and more apps just refuse to run without GMS. Banking apps? Most of them don’t work. And it’s only getting worse. I run vanilla AOSP on my main profile, no Play Services. I keep GMS only in my work profile for the apps that absolutely need it. But now even some regular apps that don't need any play services won’t work on my main profile anymore. They simply block your from running , like le chat.

Maps is google's most important app there is no way to run without play services. Sure we can use webview or gmaps wv, but they don't provide turn-by-turn directions. Earlier maps used to work without play services, but two years ago, an update stopped it from working. Now that old version is out of date and no longer works.

Google is slowly making GMS very important to run. The problem with GMS is they require to run as system app and has to have all the permissions by default.

Hope EU puts pressure to make google allow apps to run independently without GMS or atleast install them as user apps(like graphene os sandboxed play services).

If we keep going on like this, AOSP can only run fdroid apps in the future.

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[-] Dreaming_Novaling@lemmy.zip 9 points 15 hours ago

One of my banking apps worked, but 3 others didn't.

Same issue, I just did web browser instead

My 2FA app didn't work.

I suggest just exporting and using a different 2FA app, especially an open source one like Aegis

I stopped receiving important texts as they were previously RCS and that refused to validate no matter what

RCS on GrapheneOS is very finicky and requires using AppOps to enable READ_DEVICE_IDENTIFIERS, and you have to let carrier services and google messages have more permissions to work. You also might have to deregister your previous phone to use the number (i.e. my old iPhone still had my number in the settings, had to remove it). There's a very long GrapheneOS thread about it, but the link should be the solution.

[-] Narauko@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I suggest just exporting and using a different 2FA app, especially an open source one like Aegis

Authy dropped their desktop app and killed the ability to export. I will have to start from scratch, but I definitely plan to.

I spent a week with that discussion your linked plus several other posts, I just couldn't get it working. I might have better luck next time I try it though.

this post was submitted on 14 Aug 2025
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