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submitted 3 days ago by individual@toast.ooo to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

What's up with this straight up pro-china and pro-russia stuff on Lemmy lately?

It's not even praising the people of China and Russia, but rather their gov directly.

Obviously the states have problems, and the EU to a lesser degree, but they at least have some human rights.

Is this some kind of organized disinformation campaign?

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[-] FuzzChef@feddit.org -4 points 21 hours ago

A little follow up: Why don't you live in China or Russia if life is so bleak in the western countries?

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 hours ago

What are you, twelve, or are you a grown-assed adult asking this question?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

That question is based on a bad frame of analysis. Critical support for Russia is for the role they play in combatting the imperialism of the global north, and the strong ally they are to socialist countries. It isn't at all because people think Russia is some paradise. Further, I can totally say that Cuba has a better economic model than the US despite quality of life being lower in some areas because of the circumstances Cuba is in, it's under massive sanctions and doesn't have the privledged position of world empire like the US does to give it vast quantities of wealth.

Put another way, your question makes about as much sense as "oh, you're pro-Palestine? Why don't you move there?" This is a classic fallacy targeting anti-imperialist and pro-socialist westerners, quality of life in the west is artificially inflated due to imperialism, not because the western economic model is intrinsically superior.

As for the PRC, I'd totally live there for a few years! I don't speak mandarin, nor do I want to uproot myself to move there long-term when my family lives relatively close to me where I am, but for a short while it would certainly be fun! China is only going to continue improving over time while the west is going to continue to stagnate and die, so hopefully we see socialism in the west in our lifetimes.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)
[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago

Lmao, we replied at almost the same time in completely different ways, that's amazing

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago

lmao this sort of thing is probably why people accuse us of all posting on the same schedule, clearly we just clocked in at the Kremlin

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago

Lmao fair, I just woke up an hour ago and checked for notifications, then saw this exquisite hot take and had to comment

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

I actually did the exact same thing, the bait posts are just too fun

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 4 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

Diva 🤝 Cowbee

Combatting liberalism while sleep groggy

[-] FuzzChef@feddit.org -2 points 15 hours ago

Interesting how much you we're able to derive from my question.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 7 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Why don’t you live in China or Russia if life is so bleak in the western countries?

"if you don't like it, leave" was the sentiment, I pointed out how you sound, which is like an american chud.

[-] FuzzChef@feddit.org -2 points 14 hours ago

Nah, that's how you want to understand it, because you're here for the fight. As you can see from cowbee's answer it's a valid question.

[-] Diva@lemmy.ml 5 points 14 hours ago

They're more charitable than I am, frankly.

I am Russian and the reason I don't move back is because I'm trans and have a life here in the US that I'm not looking to uproot. I'm more inclined to do organizing where I live now and I certainly don't have the resources to move back home and start from scratch there. On top of that it wouldn't gain me anything, I would be trading one set of reactionary assholes in power for another.

If life is bleak I'm going to do mutual aid and try to find like minded people to survive with, not run away.

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