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WHY AM I EVEN AWARE OF ONE OF YOUR (NOT EVEN) MAYORS?? WAS RATBOY NOT ENOUGH??

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[-] LangleyDominos@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I know you like to post until the cows come home and I am not about to spend the rest of my day itemizing your post and trying to read my own itemized posts.

Time and effort is not being misdirected. You have a janitor who works in Manhattan that's doing phone banking for Mamdani. You're saying that person is wasting their time, their time could be spending doing something revolutionary instead of phone banking. What should they be doing. Give me an actual concrete example. Just the example, you don't need to quote every sentence in this post, markdown is killing me.

[-] purpleworm@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago

I keep telling you that I'm not interested in talking about if Mamdani's campaign is good or not. If that's all you want to talk about, then I guess I can humor you: Hypothetically, the janitor could be working for literally any socialist third party or independent. That would not produce a won election that term, most likely, but you run into an AOC or Contrapoints problem (not saying those two are the same) where you're making "pragmatic compromises" to "gain power," but you didn't actually gain power, you just became a vessel for the DNC, because if you deviate from their directions more than a little they will fucking smoke you. Power isn't being the person who gets to cast the vote that they were told to by the DNC. Third parties and independents need to glacially crawl over broken glass, but at least when they make progress it's really theirs.

Mamdani has a lot more individual leeway than a Congressperson, of course, so let's see if he is actually able to carry out a positive agenda that is more than a shadow of what he promised, if he gets cowed by the Democratic establishment, or if he gets fucked over and fails despite trying to work against them. As I said, I'm not really invested in divining which of those will happen, I just care about people working from reasonable principles instead of excuses.

[-] LangleyDominos@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

This is what I was touching on in my post, the one you called absurd. Our janitor phone banks for a different party and that election doesn't lead anywhere either. Somehow this means that popular energy for change has been preserved and redirected towards something beneficial despite the mechanism for such not describe or seemingly existing. Our janitor works for a campaign that results in them getting duped by a DNC shill or they work for a campaign that admittedly results in nothing but has a book club. I'm not saying that to shit on socialist third parties, I'm okay with leaps of faith, I just don't think it's a position of pragmatic superiority. I don't think it bestows unique authority on the people that adhere to it, so they can come Hexsplain sheepdogs to everyone.

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