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submitted 1 month ago by ieGod@lemmy.zip to c/books@lemmy.world

Wrapped up the first book after much struggle. Am I crazy for finding it extremely poorly written? Writing aside, the characters suck, the motivations suck, and the scenario building feels like it was tossed together by a 12 year old. I don't get the hype. Everything is paper thin. The fictional science aspect is the most compelling part but as a cohesive whole it fails to land.

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[-] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago

Thank you. It was so annoying reading that constantly thinking "that's not how the three-body problem works, and even if it was, that sure as hell doesn't describe Alpha Centauri."

And that's just the beginning. People calling this shit hard sci-fi is crazy.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

I mean, the first part of the book is kinda exactly how it works. Well 4 body, anyways.

Tap for spoilerThey're trying to find an equation to know when their planet will pass out of the habitable zone. Every equation fails to describe the orbits. So they try to simulate it, and it seems effective, but eventually the errors accumulate and the simulation fails to describe the orbits.

But yeah, we have been able to tell for a long time the Alpha Centauri isn't like that.

[-] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

No, they're not just trying to find an equation, which may not be possible. They say it's impossible to predict where the objects will be in the near term, which is nonsense.

The three-body problem doesn't say it's unpredictable, just that there is no universal equation to describe it. You can still determine where things will be with a high degree of probability with iteration. The earth, sun, and moon are a three-body problem but we know where they will be tomorrow, next year, next century, next millennium, etc. The error bars increase with time but the moon isn't suddenly going to be ejected beyond the orbit of Pluto in an unpredictable way due to some bullshit from the chaos of the three-body problem. The entire solar system is a (very large number)-body problem, but we know where every major body is going to be with a large degree of certainty for a long time.

Whether or not they could have found a way to preserve their civilisation thorough the periods inimical to life is also beside the point. They claim they couldn't predict the occurrences, which is bullshit. You don't need a computer for that, even a biological computer (which I admit was actually kind of a cool concept), you just need paper and pen.

You can't have pretentions to hard sci-fi and just talk nonsense. Either be hand-wavy soft sci-fi or make your explanations conform to our best current understanding. You can't try to explain shit and also get the most basic concepts wrong.

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