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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by DrPop@lemmy.one to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

The few conversations I've had there have been unproductive and inflammatory. While even in other instances when I've said something someone disagreed with they would at least support their statement. Also no one would tell me why the "Confused Unga Bunga" meme is racist but they keep accusing me of it. I'm all for open discussions but even the comments there are so angry and toxic.

Edit: I'm reading every comment and taking everything people said and considering all sides. My stance on the phrase has changed but I am still hesitant about giving hexbear a chance. I'll sleep on it though.

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[-] DrPop@lemmy.one 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] Zoift@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

I assure you, racists have not forgotten.

Really, you don't have to defend it.

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit: removed the snark because you do appear to be taking criticism, which is something someone with terminal reactionary brainworms does not do. Self criticism helps us grow and get better opinions, and I hope you'll reevaluate Hexbear differently now that you see where we're coming from

[-] LaBellaLotta@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

Racist tropes don’t have an expiration date what are you talking about

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It has more lasting relevance than your "my wholesome freeze-gamer buddies totally were just talking about a caveman video game from the 90s that never actually says Unga Bunga in it" claims.

EDIT: Seems a 90s video game may have had a racist dogwhistle in it. Which absolves all uses of a racist utterance forever and ever!

[-] DrPop@lemmy.one 0 points 1 year ago
[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Looks like you lied, again.

You didn't block this instance if you're still scrambling to cover your ass.

[-] DrPop@lemmy.one 4 points 1 year ago

I can't with my app on mobile(unless it's a recent)☠️ I've just been manually blocking each community as I see them. Being wrong is not the same as lying.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

You can be wrong and lie in alternating fashion, and that's what you've done here so far.

Go away already.

[-] DrPop@lemmy.one 5 points 1 year ago

I showed you where in the game he said it, and didn't change anything I said though, not counting editing my original comment. I'm willing to no longer use the phrase I just couldn't stand you jumping on me with buzzwords and accusations. I do try to be a decent human, but I'm just some internet stranger to you. I was genuinely confused wanted help understanding it and you just dogpiled me.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

It was a racist utterance from way before that and your pretenses of innocent wholesome smol bean gamerness run awfully thin if that's what the entirety of your case to keep uttering it comes from.

Again, you haven't blocked this instance yet. And you should.

[-] DrPop@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

Uhh, I'm trying to apologize and grow from this, I'm explaining my position and where the statement came from, not justifying it. I needed you to know where I came and I wanted to know where you came from so we could reach an understanding. I can't block instances in voyager. At least I tried.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

if you're legit and you want to grow and reflect, from now on in this thread, only ask questions and do not argue, digest what you read and learn for a while, and then you can argue like, tomorrow or whenever, if you still want to. anything else would be reactive and unhelpful for your growth, and likely result in you digging in and growing stubborn on the issue

For real, this is not going to be healthy if you keep posting at this rate, if you're being genuine

I was replying to your reply in another thread and thought Id check your post history only to see youre in like 5 interactions at once, thats now how you self crit or reflect chief

[-] DrPop@lemmy.one 8 points 1 year ago

You may be right, I just felt the strong need to defend my reasoning. I'm just trying to learn and I'm reading every comment and considering my response and even went back and changed some of my statements that looking back are dumb.

[-] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You don't have to fix everything right this second, in fact trying to is likely to break everything worse. If you really do reflect and grow here, you will be welcomed and encouraged, but not if you go down swinging on a hill you "felt a strong need to defend". I am not saying that in any way disparagingly, I've been there. You may not be wrong for feeling this way, but acting on it may very well be a mistake in retrospect

If you decide to take my advice, edit your post here to say: I've been given a lot to reflect on, I'm going to disengage and do that" or similar (include the word disengage though) and then no one will pile on, and may even reach out

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[-] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

The N word had its first documented use in the early 17th century so it's clearly okay to use nowadays

[-] fiat_lux@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Historical usage informs modern usage. There are still people very negatively affected by outdated concepts that have carried through into modern language.

Like women being associated with the word "hysterical" based on the idea that "hysteria" was a "wandering uterus" and caused behavioural problems. That idea is first found four thousand years ago in ancient Egyptian documents - yet still has influence on our language and thinking today.

Time is not always enough to make poison innocuous.

[-] all-knight-party@kbin.cafe 2 points 1 year ago

You could probably argue something like that, but perpetuating something so deeply rooted in racism isn't worth it when the payoff is... Meme funnies.

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