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[-] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

I'm sorry, in hospitals? Where a significant portion of the patients can do none of those things?

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago
[-] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

I missed that part lol, mb

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 0 points 1 week ago

They’re not residents, you’re thinking of nursing homes. Roughly a third of hospital patients can walk without assistance, but yes. The rationale is staff doesn’t turn themselves into bullet sponges, because then who is left to remove the bullets once the shooter is dead? Either way, what do unarmed, untrained (to fight) people with the body armor equivalent of pajamas do to stop bullets?

The patient room doors don’t lock. Sometimes those doors are made of glass. But herding the patients who can walk into the halls is likely an opportunity for an active shooter to hit more targets. As such, everyone hunkers down, and the police take care of it. In theory, per the training modules. Police sometimes run drills with the hospital, depending on locale and interagency dealings.

Shutting all the fire doors is likely the only defense. Those nurses can be crafty on the fly, but there are limitations.

I can’t imagine a secondary piece of this policy isn’t hospitals avoiding liability regarding workplace injury/death lawsuits.

I just hadn’t known until now that in grasping for solutions schools found the standardized hospital policy and are running with it.

[-] FerretyFever0@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

I guess that the hospital is one of the better places to get shot.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 0 points 1 week ago

In theory. Realistically it’s also about what you’re shot with and where. A robust man shot in the gut with a standard .22 that doesn’t ricochet or hit anything immediately vital probably isn’t even going to ICU after the bullet is fished out. 9mm changes the odds on everything. Again though, 1 bullet to the gut may not be an ICU scenario after surgery, depending. An AK/AR though, why are they even legal for civilians?

A child, with any bullet, I don’t like to think about it.

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

To the gut? It doesn't matter what the round is. You're going to the ICU. A .22 isn't as non-lethal as the memes like to make it out to be, and your gut is a bunch of very critical soft tissue.

If it's to the arm or something, fine. Anywhere in the torso, you're going to the ICU most likely.

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