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There is something fundamentally fucked up in a country that arrests and puts in jail a 13 years old kid over a bad joke.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 20 points 1 week ago
[-] arin@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago
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[-] artyom@piefed.social 4 points 1 week ago

The result of "no tolerance policies".

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Holy shit, the amount of surveillance the teens are under is ungodly and people blame the chatbot? And there wasn't even a human kind enough to speak with the girl before calling the fucking cops? I see a lot of blame to place here, but it's not the chatbot who is to blame.

  • The kids for bullying her for her tan
  • The school boards implementing the surveillance
  • The parents who allowed such surveillance in the first place
  • The person screening what was flagged for not sending the school counselor to talk with the kid
  • The person calling the cops
  • The cops for arresting an 8th-grader and DOING A STRIP SEARCH AND KEEPING HER OVERNIGHT WTF instead of handing her over to her parents

Everyone of them failed a 13 year old girl. All of them should be ashamed.

[-] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 week ago

The cops for arresting an 8th-grader

This is America, that's what they do. They love overreacting to small problems.

I was arrested for self-defence in a highschool fight, the actual bully who attack me did not get in any sort of trouble. If I didn't have citizenship, there was a chance that incident could've led to my deportation, even tho I was a minor. (USCIS can see all your arrests, including those that did not led to a conviction, or even expunged or pardoned offences, and they could retroactively revoke your legal status if they find out you lied.) But luckily charges were dropped because of couse they don't have the evidence to prove it and I have a clean record so they didn't bother prosecuting.

There is probably an alternate timeline somewhere out there in the multiverse where I got deported and had to learn another language that I haven't spoken for over a decade. Depressing to think about.

(Well that is still technically a possibility, all they have to do is make up some bullshit about "being a spy" and put me in gitmo)

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[-] sik0fewl@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Ya, AI is not the story here.

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[-] 2910000@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago

Students who think they are chatting privately among friends often do not realize they are under constant surveillance

This is the problem

[-] kalkulat@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Lots of wannabe authoritarians out there in educationland.

All those decades that the schools just -couldn't afford- more (well-educated) teachers and smaller class sizes. Lots of low-end look-good.

And then along came tech, and lo-and-behold, IT was going to be the savior. Let's buy into that! We may not be able to teach them to read, write or think, but they can learn to kneel!

[-] krunklom@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 week ago

I couldn't agree more.

It's fucking pathetic.

[-] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 week ago

Citizen! Good news! Your writings have been randomly selected by Friend Computer for review!

A select team of Troubleshooters has been dispatched to bathe your general area in soothing Raytheon ^(tm)^ Brain Beams until your attitude improves.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

With the help of artificial intelligence, technology can dip into online conversations and immediately notify both school officials and law enforcement.

Not sure what's worse here: how the police overreacted or that the software immediately contacts law enforcement, without letting teachers (n.b.: they are the experts here, not the police) go through the positives first.

But oh, that would mean having to pay somebody, at least some extra hours, in addition to the no doubt expensive software. JFC.

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Not sure what’s worse here: how the police overreacted or that the software immediately contacts law enforcement, without letting teachers (n.b.: they are the professionals here, not the police) go through the positives first.

The idea behind the policy is to stop school shootings. If there were a legitimate threat of violence, you would likely want the police to be notified as soon as possible. The issue here is that the authorities are letting a piece of half-ass code (Read: AI) decide what is a legitimate threat and, worse still, acting on that determination without question.

They have literally sacrificed an essential freedom for some temporary, and probably illusory, security.

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 week ago

Man, if only there was a good way to stop school shooting

Alas, one can only dream

[-] FEIN@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

"no way to stop this" says the only country where this happens

[-] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Dream? Not in an American school you don't. You need to stay alert and be ready to "RUN, HIDE, FIGHT" at any moment.

[-] Zephorah@discuss.online 5 points 1 week ago

I didn’t realize the schools were using Run, Hide, Fight. That is the same policy for hospital staff in the event of an active shooter. Maddening.

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Having worked in quite a few fields in the last 15 years or so, it's the same active shooter training they give everyone. Even in stores that sell guns.

I'll let the reader decide how fucked up it is that there's basically a countrywide accepted "standard response"

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[-] 6nk06@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago

the policy is to stop school shootings

You should try Europe once. It's more fun than your 3rd world country.

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[-] verdigris@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 week ago

I hate how fully leapfrogged the conversation about surveillance was. It's so disgusting that it's just assumed that all of your communications should be read by your teachers, parents, and school administration just because you're a minor. Kids deserve privacy too.

[-] Ontimp@feddit.org 21 points 1 week ago

This is exactly what is going to happen with the fucking chat control of the EU actually enforces it, but for an entire continent. Fuck this shit. Privacy is a human right.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

Talking about online privacy has become the “safe sex talk” of the last decade or so. You have to keep reminding kids so that it sticks. Nothing you say online is private, it can all be copied/screengrabbed/recorded/photographed and shared by the recipient. What you say, any images you post, etc. On school or work devices they can essentially see most everything, nothing is private. Even if you make efforts to cover your tracks, a truly determined agency with enough resources likely will find out who you are if they want to.

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[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 14 points 1 week ago

More free child labor in jails.

[-] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 13 points 1 week ago

The US will do anything and everything except try proper gun control

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[-] wuffah@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

What a great way to prepare students for our AI enabled social media and digital surveillance society. Take note kids, trust no one!

[-] redwattlebird@lemmings.world 11 points 1 week ago
[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Surprised from that shithole?

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 10 points 1 week ago

The next few years is going to be like the time Post Office employees were hounded and had their lives destroyed over what was later found to be a software fault and not mass Human corruption, but on a far grander scale.

[-] Bennyboybumberchums@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago

It not just schools. Its everywhere. I was on reddit just last week, talking about when I was 15 and fancying one of my teachers. I got banned for "soliciting sex from a minor"... And whats worse, when I appealed, they upheld it. Some human actually read a comment in which I spoke about when I was 15. And took that to mean I was asking kids if they want to see some puppies or something. The insane online world of the far left and right has fucked us all.

[-] zbyte64@awful.systems 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

With you up until bringing the far left into this. What does universal healthcare, trans rights or taxing billionaires have to do with the surveillance state, aside from dismantling it?

[-] prex@aussie.zone 10 points 1 week ago

I would argue that universal healthcare, trans rights and taxing billionaires are not far left, but Im not American.

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[-] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Arrested and strip-searched for a first offense? That's fucking ridiculous. I hope the lawsuit succeeds. It's the only peaceful tool we have to curb over-zealous law enforcement.

Before the morning was even over, the Tennessee eighth grader was under arrest. She was interrogated, strip-searched and spent the night in a jail cell, her mother says.

Earlier in the day, her friends had teased the teen about her tanned complexion and called her “Mexican,” even though she’s not. When a friend asked what she was planning for Thursday, she wrote: “on Thursday we kill all the Mexico’s.”

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[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

The world is turning into one giant shitty customer service experience.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 week ago

My sense of humor is dry, dark, and absurdist. I’d go to jail every week for the sorts of things I joke about if I was a kid today. This is complete lunacy.

Example of an average joke on my part: speed up and run over that old lady crossing the street!

It makes my partner laugh. I laugh. We both know I don’t mean it. But a crappy AI tool wouldn’t understand that.

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[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

LOL the land of the free.

[-] Aggravationstation@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I can't say for certain because I wasn't given one but I can't imagine me and my friends would have been willing to communicate with each other on devices provided by our school. Even in the early 00s it would have been filled with spyware.

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[-] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

We are living in the shittiest kind of cyberpunk dystopia. Can't wait for AI-induced cyber-psychosis once people implant Musk's chips into their brains and give MechaHitler full access to their subconscious.

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[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Another school shooting avoided! Just kidding, we just tortured a child for fun.

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[-] cdf12345@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 week ago

“Sometimes you have to look at the trade for the greater good,” said Board of Education member Anne Costello in a July 2024 board meeting.

No no no no.

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[-] FuckFascism@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So the police sexually assaulted a minor. I'm not even fucking surprised anymore, wtf.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

What is sad is that an environment like this ruins someone’s mental health and ironically increasing the overall risk of violence.

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[-] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 5 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You know what really grinds my gears? This shitty dystopia completely eschews any potentially cool aspect of invasive exploitative authoritarianism. The (not so) secret police is patching together their own "uniforms" by browsing the bargain bins at the local tacti-cool mall-ninja outfitters. Where's the black leather trench coats, stylish sunglasses worn after dark and slicked back hair? If they're going to ask me for 'ze papers' all the time, the least they can do is look cool doing it, godamnit. At least get Hugo Boss to design your attire; that's just about the only thing that worked out well for the last bunch of pricks.

I mean, where's the towering brutalist architecture? Where's my mandatory daily dose of SOMA? Or my idiotically wirelessly hackable cyberware? Hell, they can't even do bread and circuses right anymore. The bread is CO2-pumped flour glue and the circuses is an endless stream of more Marvel projects and Disney violations of Star Wars.

And don't get me started on the quality of our dictators these days. They sure don't make them like they used to.

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[-] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

I didn’t know Reddit admins were also school admins

[-] SugarCatDestroyer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It seems that Big Brother is wathing you... But now it’s already a reality, oh and what will happen if someone commits a thoughtcrime?

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