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this post was submitted on 09 Aug 2025
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i do not think you would find many people who actively support the use of artificial intelligence in the monitoring and moderating of hate speech or fascism. those things must be moderated and resisted by people who can be held accountable for mistakes or oversteps, not machines that can not be held accountable for anything.
Or we could have a legislation that would punish the companies that run these bullshit systems AND the authorities that allow and use them when they flop, like in this case.
Hey, dreaming is still free (don't know how much longer though).
The problem is a societal one. lets see:
This has gone through too many hands to even start blaming the companies. anyone in this chain had the opportunity to do the right thing (ok, maybe the teens didn't, they don't know any better). Noone did.
Surveillance shouldn't be so pervasive, but i have no issue with e.g. surveillance in a prison, maybe in a hospital (not in the patient rooms, but to make sure noone steals the good stuff or to make sure no patients are lost in a service tunnel), at a border, inside of police stations to make sure that prisoner rights are upheld, military bases for obvious reasons and so on.
Your society is the issue, and therefor surveillance is everywhere except where it would be useful.
You're evidently an apologist for these crappy companies.
2 or 3 parents can't do jack shit to avoid this, short of removing the kids from school and having them homeschooled.
There are 3 main factors that allow this shit to happen:
There is no way to justify any of the 3 factors as they exist today. These need to change if anything is to get better.
That there are parents that could be doing more to avoid this kind of shit? Absolutely. Will parents pushing for change do anything towards fixing it? Not if the other 3 factors don't play their part as well.
And the reason fucking kids are so fragile today is because of us allowing everything to be called "bullying". So, they joked about the tan, big fucking deal. Learn to take a fucking joke or go live in a cave.
Get fucking real.
nah, i don't like the companies myself, i run my models locally to be independent from them. Venture capital is trying to cram it everywhere, i agree on that point. But the issue in this case is that not one person in the long chain of people did care at all, not that a chatbot flagged the word "kill"; that would have happened with a simple word filter as well.
I also agree that your system is crap and you deserve a better government that cares for people, but since not enough people vote for people and parties like that, we must assume that the majority of voters in the US either dont care or WANT a strong leader to decide for them, they want surveillance to feel save (even tho it doesn't help with safety at all!), and that this majority is racist as well, or else the skin color of the girl wouldn't even be a conversation point. It was in the open for what Trump and Project 2025 stood - and they didn't even stop with the presidency, they gave him the senate too to make sure their agenda gets their way. The rest is simply a consequence of that - this society consists of indifferent, partly hateful, partly racist people.
Kids are brutal and often cruel, especially to their classmates. They brought a girl to the point where she hated the color of her skin so much that she made a "joke" to kill the ethnic group so she wouldn't be associated with that anymore. Here we are again: hateful, racist people have hateful, racist kids that bully others over skin color.
The solution? I'm not sure. It will take a lot of time and multiple generations; and it probably will only happen if the US loses a lot of it's power or breaks up into multiple states.