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[-] randint@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Taiwan does not view itself as a soverign nation, but for most practical purposes it is one. Also, I don't think "definitionally" is a word.

Edit: Apparently "definitionally" is a word. I stand corrected.

[-] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

Taiwan does not view itself as a soverign nation, but for most practical purposes it is one.

Being a sovereign nation is when you don't have a seat in the UN and most sovereign nations refuse to recognize you as an independent nation.

[-] randint@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Do you know what a sovereign nation is? Whether a state has a seat in the UN is not an indicator of sovereignty. By the way, do you know why the ROC does not have a seat in the UN? The old China, ROC, quitted preemptively so as to not get kicked out by the new China, PRC. By your logic, evidently, a nation can decide whether another nation is sovereign.

[-] Chapo0114@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

Wait, they took their ball and went home and you're defending that as a show of legitimacy?

[-] randint@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago
[-] GivingEuropeASpook@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

TBH I don't think "legitimacy" matters. They function as an independent country. They issue passports, and flights between them and the mainland function as international flights despite both countries making up legal mumbo jumbo that calls it "cross-strait travel". There are countries with more widespread "legitimate" recognition that are functionally less of a nationstate than Taiwan.

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