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Euronews fact checked the statement and found that ammunition production may have been approximately four times more than that of the NATO Alliance in 2024. On paper, NATO’s economy is 25 times bigger than Russia’s once again illustrating that GDP measure doesn't tell you much of anything about the real economy.

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[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 4 days ago

It's also worth keeping in mind that artillery is largely guided by drones now as well They're not just shelling a general area. Drones are used for spotting, and then the artillery hits the targets. It's much more precise than people realize.

[-] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

For example Russian 240mm mortar equpped with modern guidance system have accuracy like few meters, so given how big boom 240mm mortar shells do it basically hits every time

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 4 days ago

Yeah that's the other part of it, the shell doesn't need to be super accurate because it has a blast radius and produces shrapnel. If you're within a few meters of where it lands, you're going to have a very bad times.

[-] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 8 points 4 days ago

That's a good point! And plus that way you can fire many shells at a target instead of just one explosive with a drone. But at the same time that kind of inflates the amount of shells per casualty, right?

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 4 days ago

Even if it's dozens of shells per casualty, the sheer volume means that you end up with a lot more casualties than you do from drones overall. It's thousands of shells per day vs thousands of fpv drones a month.

[-] da_gay_pussy_eatah@hexbear.net 6 points 4 days ago

I absolutely agree. I'm more trying to get at where the perception that drones are the vast majority of the fighting vs the reality, and just that it probably is comes down to the nature of drones with regards to the videos that they produce.

[-] yogthos@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 4 days ago

Oh I think it's like you said, there's always footage with the drone and also the fact that the west is far behind in artillery shell production, so there's an incentive to paint drones as a new wonder weapon that would allow Ukraine to keep parity.

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