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Economies halted because the public freaked out. The vast, vast majority of healthy people were absolutely fine. Most of those who died, with respect, had relatively few years of life left anyway.
Society should strive to keep these vulnerable people as safe as possible. But I personally think it was incredibly unethical to shut down whole economies just for that.
Still waiting for you to cite the risks that outweigh the benefits, now that too much time has passed for you to still thing of it as “rushed”.
Standing up for bodily autonomy was the best thing one could do
Don't forget dying on that hill.
Still waiting you to cite that they don't.
This is a burden of proof fallacy right here. Classic.
They have to prove it's safe, not vice versa.
Typical leftist authoritarianism. Classic.
They already did, that was done before they launched the vaccines. You still don't think they are safe, so now it is up to you to prove why. Which you can't, because you have nothing but your feelings to show for it.
They did but it was an abridged version shall we say. Which is fine. It was an emergency and the law foresees this.
But the cultural shift towards harm avoidance at all costs and general authoritarianism (as clearly on display here on this site) led governments the world over to, use heavy handed tactics, shall we say, to get people to take it.
I am absolutely not against the vaccines. I got three doses of Pfizer. But I am profoundly against the heavy handed tactics used in deploying them.
They completed all of the normal testing. The mRNA vaccines technology is decades old. They did all of the normal testing but the stages were done in parallel and pushed ahead of everything else in the pipe. Had any stage failed the approvals would not have been given. This is an anti-vax meme but it is completely false.
Ah yes, the heavy handed tactics of checks notes zero consequences to the people who didn't take it.
Lol "zero consequences"?! They literally let this lady die because she didn't take it
A lack of privilege is not a consequence. Receiving an organ donation is a gift, not a right.
Fact of the matter is there are a lot of people waiting for organs, whomever you give it to somebody else is going to die. When you get an organ transplant you have to take medication that leaves you immuno compromised.
So you have two people in front of you in need of an organ but only one organ to give it out. One is up to date on all their vaccinations and has been following their doctors instructions. The other thinks they know better than their doctor and has refused to get vaccinations. Which one of these two people do you think will have a better chance of surviving longer once immnuo compromised from the transplant?
"Woman who refused vaccine gets organ transplant, dies of COVID a month later" is a much shittier headline.
I was in Spain at the beginning of the pandemic. The bodies they were stacking in the back of army trucks because their mortuary system had collapsed were not fine.
That might have happened in a few cases. I don't deny there was a real pandemic and vulnerable people were dying.
A few years ago corpses were rotting in a basement of Universidad Autónoma becauae too many people donated their bodies to science. What's your point?
Neurotic authoritarian.
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Cool dude. You sure owned me.
Sorry I didn't take the bait. Better luck next time.
Neither did I. You were the guys who dogpiled on me.
I think you may be too delicate for social media.
Very true. I have been sobbing for hours
You owned yourself but were too stupid to see it.