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I usually don't link wikipedia because I assume it's beneath the level of interest and knowledge of people on forums, but you clearly have some homework you need to do. So here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Donbas_(2014%E2%80%932022)
You must have some problem with basic logic - the whole thing started with a Russian invasion of Crimea and Donbas in 2014-2015.
directly from the wikipedia page:
Come on, study a bit. Have another one. When did this whole thing start again?
Your quote confirms that Russia invaded Ukraine in 2014. Still problems with logic?
And nothing happened before that that involved people being killed?
You mean how Yanukovich's snipers have been shooting the protesters at the Maidan square? Yeah, sure, that one as well.
Cool, now it seems you're up to speed and are now aware that Ukraine already existed before 2022 and that it didn't all start because of Russia randomly. Now read these too.
fire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odesa_clashes
snipers: https://brill.com/view/journals/rupo/8/2/article-p181_5.xml
Do your thing, reply guy!
Very sad event indeed. But I don't know what's your point. Are you trying to justify a war which killed tens of thousands of people by an unfortunate event killing 48 people?
I assume you didn't read the second one, about your claim over the snipers. Go back and read again. And who started the Donbas war?
Katchanovski is known for his pro-Russian bias and his work isn't accepted by mainstream scholars.
Mostly Russian "vacationers".
Please elaborate on what's wrong with the article. Proclaiming "biased bias" and quoting mystical nameless "mainstream scholars" ain't scientific.
And also explain who those Russian vacationers are who managed to singlehandedly declare two independent republics and a separatist movement. Might as well give me your Fantasyland timeline of the war against the DPR and LPR, because you are quite vague in everything you say and I can't read your mind.
I myself am not an expert on the subject, but other experts don't seem to accept his work.
How about you study what happened yourself? Read e.g. Hybrid Warriors which is not a bad account on the events, even though it's also Putin apologetic.