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[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

Maybe. But not everyone who voted for Trump is a fascist. There are enough voters on the edge who really did vote for lowered cost of living, after four years of everything getting more and more expensive under Biden. Those voters can be won over, and this is really going to slap them in the face.

[-] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

There are enough voters on the edge who really did vote for lowered cost of living. . . and this is really going to slap them in the face.

Honestly, I hope it rips their fucking faces off. Trump showed who he was during his first term, and it took a "fuck everyone else, gimme what I want" mentality to vote in favor of his second term. As a consequence, U.S. democracy is effectively over and everyone is much worse off for it. The leopards have been feasting, and it's about to get much, much worse.

[-] hume_lemmy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Trump showed who he was during his first term

And his entire life has shown his complete and utter fucking ineptitude when it comes to handling money. The only reason he has a cent is because he's been propped up his entire life... and now he's been given unfettered access to empty the US Treasury into his own pockets.

[-] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

voters on the edge who really did vote for lowered cost of living, after four years of everything getting more and more expensive under Biden

I love how, with no ability figure out things like "inflation", or "pandemic killing supply chains means even more inflation", they're left with "Brandon took mah terlet papar".

I lump the "it's Joe's fault because we weren't told by Trump any other ideas" people in with the rest of 'em. They test-drove the circus once already so they knew better.

[-] Azal@pawb.social 4 points 1 month ago

Then those people were fucking idiots. Things were shit under Trump 1.0 with the inflation starting under him, it continued with Biden who was trying to keep an economy from collapsing after the Trump idiocy with a pandemic, so brought back in Trump 2.0 to finish the job of wrecking the economy.

[-] onslaught545@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Yes, we all agree they're idiots. That's old news.

[-] Azal@pawb.social 3 points 1 month ago

Yet we have people that seems to defend these people like they're not.

I don't have a lot of hope of "winning people over", it might come from living in a red state where people keep voting for the party that fucks them over, they get mad when they get fucked over, then they vote for the party that promises to take away the lube.

[-] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago

Yes. They were ignorant, and stupid, and poorly informed.

Where does that get you? Does writing them off instead of reaching out to them make the world better?

If elections still matter, you need them to win the next election. If elections don't matter, you need them to overthrow the tyrants. Either way, you need them. You need every single person you can win to your cause. Even the idiots.

You don't get to work with only people who meet your standards for intelligence, capability, and moral purity. You're not going to fix the world hanging out in your little "Smarts only" club with the ten other people you deign to associate with.

[-] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

It's not my job nor my responsibility to seek out these people fix others stupid.

They are free to reach out but they need to extend the olive branch.

There are too many cultists to weed through to find the one person who is genuinely confused but is somehow unable to navigate their own way out.

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