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One Piece chapter 1158 discussion
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Not that relevant to the chapter, but how good do you think the ending of one piece will be politically?
I love One Piece and trust Oda, but I think it might be heading towards a reformist direction in the end. With "good" Marines taking over. I don't hate some marine characters, but I think they totally deserve to be killed, if they stand against the revolution. Like Koby is cute, but if he died in a raid by the revolutionaries while trying to protect some monarchists on their way to the dictator convention kindly hosted by genocidal slavers, well, sorry but he brought it on himself. Of course for plot convenience, the people doing the raid that day were cartoonishly evil pirates, but it could easily have been otherwise.
I can't relate to how Garp is hyped up. He should have died fighting to protect the people of God valley. The fact, that he's still alive condemns him.
I don't like how the narrative that most marines are good and saving lives daily is successfully pushed in the fan base. More like holding up slavery, monarchy and genocide daily.
Should I be less worried about that aspect of the ending potentially falling short? I'm sure I'll be able to greatly enjoy it overall anyway, but this aspect might get annoying.
Thank you for making this comment since I see this brought up a lot in the fandom and it never being handled well.
I think Oda is saying that the marines themselves represent a large and organized military force being controlled by the WG. If the revolutionaries depose the nobles, you'll still need to answer the question of where this world spanning military will go.
I think Koby and the SWORD plotline is to set up him taking the lead and making sure the marines dont overthrow the revolution. But its not so clear cut at this point and Oda loves throwing curve balls.
Garp is condemned and his retribution is giving his life to koby and the next generation to choose justice over rank.
I think Oda has this in the bag, but it will still be lib since its shonen jump
Lots of manga reading people (more so one piece) really don't got much comprehension at times. Some do but overall its very diluted. Same with people who read hunterxhunter. Hence the whole dumb narrative about marines doing good.
As for oda or broader one piece ending I don't think he is really putting forth some communist treatise. Mainly cause I don't think he himself got any grasp on how contradictions resolve. It would be some vague "oh the masses chose whatever form of governance and live happily ever after".
I love a song of ice and fire, grrm is a old hippie guy. Even then the text stands on its own. He really gets good with ruling rich mfs and their attempts at keeping their wealth at an enormous cost.
With garp or koby they are kept forth as foils to other characters. Garp is much of a foil to his own son just as Harald is to rocks. Garp is someone who thinks military has a public utility but he still dislikes what its real use is for. So he tries to distance himself by being underneath chain of command.
Garp or his actions are not known until we get there I guess. Him being a indecisive stooge is his theme. Whether aokiji is a spy or not is unrelated but his fight with garp was on the same grounds.
Koby is the same he is kept as an foil for luffy but koby himself overestimates his capability.
The ending will be something as I said "everyone gets together and runs their nations, live happily ever after". It doesn't really matter to me. It could be whatever. But that's that.
That's why I love araki and his Jojo series. He loves his anti climax so much.
Fans suck don't think about what they push forth.