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Politico reports that at a Hamptons fundraiser last Saturday, Cuomo told his well-heeled supporters that, contrary to all available evidence, he could win the New York mayoral race as an independent—because he was likely to have the implicit support of President Donald Trump.

The imperative of defeating Mamdani justified the new coalition Cuomo is trying to create of his die-hard loyalists (who are Democrats) with Trump Republicans.

Some of that latter group might be tempted to back Curtis Sliwa, the actual GOP nominee in the race. Cuomo told these donors, “We can minimize [the Sliwa] vote, because he’ll never be a serious candidate. And Trump himself, as well as top Republicans, will say the goal is to stop Mamdani. And you’ll be wasting your vote on Sliwa.” Cuomo went on to emphasize that he’d be a mayor who could find common ground with Trump:

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[-] yesman@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

This is why the Democratic party stinks. Just cynical assholes only loyal to power.

You think Gavan Newsom is different?

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 months ago

Nope, Newsom vetoes progressive voter referendums all the time in deference to established power and corporations. Just look at what happens in Cali when power companies are at fault for massive wildfires due to negligent equipment/line upkeep…

The state has the 4th largest economy in the world, and yet simultaneously has incredible wealth disparity, a crisis of unhoused people and untreated mental health issues with no affordable/free housing in sight, and crumbling roads/infrastructure everywhere. It is not well run.

So yeah, Newsom wouldn’t be my first pick based on substance. But on style, yes, he’s fighting fire with fire. Hell, he’s simply just doing something to fight, and myself and many others love to see it. More of this from all Dems please, especially those who aren’t full on corporate shills. AOC - now is your time to step up, let’s go!

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

TBF if I were homeless I could live in cali, I would be left to die in most other states.

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 months ago

would be left to die in most other states.

Yeah you sure about that? Gavin been on a crusade to do exactly that in California.

https://www.aclusocal.org/en/press-releases/aclu-report-californias-war-unhoused-people

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -3 points 3 months ago

That article says like 28 times that these actions are by communities and innercity municipalities yet somehow your reaction is "tHe GuVneR DeeD THIs"

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 4 points 3 months ago

Because he's continuously attacking them...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/californias-homeless-crisis-newsoms-political-albatross-rcna206849

And directing the communities to do exactly that.

https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/07/23/governor-newsom-announces-local-progress-in-reducing-homelessness/

And he fucking ran on getting rid of the homeless

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/newsom-urges-california-cities-and-counties-to-ban-homeless-encampments

Newsom, a former mayor of San Francisco, made tackling homelessness a priority of his administration when he took office in 2019 and since then, Democratic leaders in the state have also moved toward cracking down on encampments.

And surprise surprise, he escalated after courts said it was okay to do.

His declaration comes a year after the U.S. Supreme Court made it easier for officials to ban homeless people from camping outside. It was a ruling welcomed by many Democratic leaders, including Newsom, despite pushback from advocates for homeless people who objected to the decision by the conservative court as cruel.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Amazing how he can just selectively read and then just be wrong even about the stuff he "read".

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -2 points 3 months ago

The only Legislation Newsom has signed involving homelessness is expanding the number of shelter beds available.

[-] Goferking0@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 months ago

He ran on getting rid of them and does the trump thing of just suggesting they do the dirty work for him.

Gov. Gavin Newsom told California cities this week that there “were no more excuses” for homeless encampments, a message he has repeated often over the years with little success.

who will rid me of these terrible homeless people, I will surely do more if no one rids me of them

But since he's a dem you're perfectly fine with anything awful he does or campaigns on

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

TBF if the cities had built enough beds like he's been doing, there would be few to none encampments.

[-] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

Newsom is only different in the sense his constituents won't stand for this sort of thing.

I hope New York proves they won't, either.

[-] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago

You think Gavan Newsom is different?

Yes, but you go ahead and be sure to vote for “More of the Same” on the ballot if we’re lucky enough to have an election in 2028.

See how much changes from doing nothing.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 months ago

How.much has changed from doing something?

[-] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You people have had since this time last year to understand how all of this works. If I have to explain how the concept of voting works to you, our problem is FAR greater than I ever thought possible.

[-] icystar@lemmy.cif.su 0 points 3 months ago

You're part of the problem.

It's a two-pronged strategy.

[-] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 0 points 3 months ago

Following me around are you?

A two pronged strategy beats no strategy- any day of the week. At least I’m not left to let others decide for me.

[-] icystar@lemmy.cif.su 0 points 3 months ago

The fuck... the two-pronged strategy is to funnel as much as wealth possible to the those who already have it.

That's better than... no strategy to funnel as much wealth as possible to those who already have it?

Like I said, I used to think useful idiots were rare.

[-] MourningDove@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Your unwilling to contribute the bare minimum to stop a fascist is why we are here.

You did nothing and let others make the decision for you. In your protest of chemo, you allowed the cancer to thrive.

Take a bow. This is all on you.

[-] icystar@lemmy.cif.su 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You can just re-read my last line whenever you're confused about why you're wrong.

I'm going to block you now. People like you are insufferable.

[-] I_Fart_Glitter@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

One day, 92 comments, all of them rude. I’ve tagged you as “unpleasant person.”

[-] MourningDove@lemmy.zip -1 points 3 months ago

Some gifts just wrap themselves.

[-] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

No wonder you Americans are fucked, you demand that democrats step up and hit back at trump and the moment one does, you guys shit on him and tear him down. Enjoy more trump i guess, since you clearly think he’s better than Newson

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

You should really research Newsom some more. One example is that he hangs out with, and a gives a platform to, Charlie Kirk on his podcast but there are far worse things, too.

Newsom is not the guy.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 months ago

Why research when you can just vote blue no matter who, as they platform fascists and treat the poor like dirt?

[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Always glad to see Eugene Debbs still haunting the fascists and its enablers.

[-] gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

You're missing the point I think. People want better politicians, Democrats are better than Republicans meaningfully but not so meaningfully that they could fix the issues we're seeing in society. People like Cuomo and Newson are just power hungry people, who may be better than Trump but the people won't be satisfied with replacing their turd sandwich with ultra processed fast food, they want a healthy nutritious meal. Newson is fast food, it's a meaningful step up from turd sandwich but it won't fix the American diet.

It's Germany being upset at the traffic light coalition and then electing Merz. They went from one back stabbing party to unhealthy and destructive fast food. This will only upset people enough to eventually elect their version of a turd sandwich - the AFD.

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world -1 points 3 months ago

You're missing the point. If we don't back the imperfection in this FPTP system and then pass meaningful reforms the which we haven't had enough senators to do in over 10 years, we're going to end up in a racist theocratic dictatorship which will make even something as horrible as China or Russia blush. The world will devolve into war which will leave hundreds of millions in perpetual suffering. The rich elite are the only people benefiting from this downfall.

People want something better than Democrats? Then we're all going to fucking die.

[-] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 months ago

Thank you! These people are about as entitled as it gets. And with no good reason! Their campaign to protest against good because it’s not perfect got us where we are. And I’m blown away by the fact that they just don’t fucking get it.

Thank you for pointing this out. This should be shouted from the mountaintops.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

They're raised on a steady diet of propaganda that says that they're the Greatest Country in the World, with a perfect democracy created by visionary prophets who understood the whole of human history back in the late 18th century. Therefore, whenever they're forced to confront the fact that that isn't the case, they rationalize things by assuming that the present state of affairs is just an anomaly and that the perfect candidate is just around the corner who'll win universal support and usher in a new golden age.

They're incapable of understanding the idea that, when things are fucked, you're going to have to go through a long path consisting of several stages of not-quite-as-fucked before things become good.

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

you're fucked too to suggest people should vote non-republican, and then bitch when people vote for a true progressive.

I think you’re confused and lost

[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

you're the one who is confused and lost here. I don't have a skin in the game. It's quite clear to me what liberals are doing and it's neither honest or decent.

Loyalty to the "lesser of two-evils" is worthless if one of the evils defers to the other.

You’re hysterical

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