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How many vests cover the face? You can also shrapnel their groin area, and they bleed out before any ambulance will be there.
One of the reasons why I picked a shotgun and use 000 buckshot is because of the spread. I assume my aim sucks, and hope that hitting the bad guys in a unarmored limb will be enough to remove them from a fight.
It’s got a good spread.
Look, I wanna scare the fucker off, not redo drywall.
Any recommendations?
If you talking shotguns, I am an amateur, so use a hefty block of salt: I have a VR80. It is a semi-auto that uses magazines, which should make it better for military situations. My guess is that if civil war breaks out, both sides will initially be recruiting troops with whatever kit they happen to have - formal outfitting by Blue States would depend on where and when you are, so it would be better to bring a gun that is fit for combat in the first place. If you live in California or other restrictive states, you remove a pin and split the gun in half, allowing the mag release to operate. Apparently a small piece of the tool can be removed to permanently enable the mag button.
The VR80 will take a good number of rounds fired before it starts to loosen up. Jamming is an issue during the break-in, but that is fine if you are practicing. This weapon in particular prefers more powerful rounds, and is designed to be ambidextrous, along with being AR-15 style for addons. If you can, ditch the stock - it doesn't telescope, and feels awkward to me.
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Yeah, practice at the range until your aim doesn't suck.
I'm staunchly antigun.... most of the time. In this case, with Dumpy mcdementiapants leading the way, arm the fuck up. I have no recommendations. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
There's also the option where the vest stops it but you have a crushed sternum
Also if you're using magnum slugs then God help you...