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[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 4 points 2 weeks ago

How about letting the users decide what to sideload? What the hell?

I hope the EU is ready to also sue Google.

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 3 points 2 weeks ago

The EU already forced sideloading to be officially supported on iPhones thanks to the Digital Markets Act, and that law applies to Google as well.

The US will likely apply pressure, just like they are trying to force their death machines to be legalized on European roads. Apple already tried to pressure the union and failed, but the political climate has changed a bit since then, and while EU bureaucrats can be fierce, European leadership tends to be weak as fuck.

But yeah, chances are that this change won't apply to the EU. :)

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 2 weeks ago

It's too bad they were too terrible at writing legislation to be successful.

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 0 points 2 weeks ago

What exactly do you mean?

Sure, nothing is perfect, but EU legislation has generally been quite good, from the GDPR to the DMA.

The challenges are more related to enforcement - rules on the book are worth nothing if we don't force companies to live by them. In this respect we've seen some pretty sloppy behaviour, but also some victories. It's not a one-sided story.

Another challenge is of course to keep passing good laws, and to avoid terrible ones. Chat control needs to be stopped. Stopping it is a matter of convincing national governments it's a bad idea, as well as members of the European Parliament - everyone should be writing their representatives NOW. But that's another issue entirely. :)

[-] Ulrich@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago

I mean Apple has continued their shitfuckery unabated.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

don't iphones delete your sideloaded apps against your will and along with your data, if you don't use the ibstaller tool at once every week?

if so that's useless for anybody other than developers themselves who otherwise don't even want to use their own app.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Does the law demand unsigned software?

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago

Google is clearly trying to find a loophole here. Their loophole clearly sucks.

In all likelihood it'll end up in front of the Court of Justice of the European Union. And in all likelihood Google will lose again.

The Court of Justice generally seems unimpressed by American lobbyists, so the strategy of finding a dumb loophole is probably doomed to fail.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

That didn’t answer my question. M

[-] cabbage@piefed.social 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Does the law demand unsigned software?

The answer is no. It's not phrased like that. But it's all about ensuring free competition in digital markets. The sole purpose of Google's move here is to hinder competition in their own digital market, and to keep control over it.

So the law does not have a paragraph stating that "unsigned software must be allowed", but it has a bunch of other paragraphs that can be used to strike down on monopolistic behaviour.

Google are aware of the law, and will try to find a loophole by designing a system that they believe technically complies with it. Then someone will sue them, it will end up in the European court, and the European court will in all likelyhood tell Google to get fucked.

It seems american tech companies think they can get away with anything because that's how it works in the US. We are repeatedly seeing that this is not how it works in Europe: the Court of Justice tends to care deeply about the intention of the law, as well as the perceived consequences of their rulings. And they don't seem to care all that much about American capitalists.

But to answer your question very simply: No, it doesn't. But thankfully that doesn't matter at all.

[-] azertyfun@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 weeks ago

The EU is currently deepthroating Trump so hard that it's completely out of breath and all our clothes are ruined.

With how volatile Trump is this could change literally anyday, but with the current political equilibrium all google would have to do is gift trump a shiny golden thing so he makes a threatening remark about gas exports and the EU would go "uwu yes master right away master, do you want to fuck my gaping asshole while you're at it?".

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