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What are your opinions on anti-natalism?
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That's wild of you to think that not wanting kids is facism. Read up on the Cross of the Honour of the German Mother.
Anti-natalism is pro-working class because it goes against pronatalist ideologies. Working class women without affordable access to birth control are often trapped in a cycle of poverty, lack of higher education access, and financial dependency. Pronatalism is often presented under the guise of family values but actually aims to encourage the birth of more minimum wage workers and cannon fodder for the military industrial complex.
I'm not the one advocating the Great Man theory here, I'm merely emphasizing the ridiculous of your claim that one can only improve the world by birthing kids and raising them to do good. You don't have to birth kids to do that, just fuckin do it yourself.
Your arguments are not written in good faith because to go as far as claiming that anti-natalism is facist shows how little you care to learn about the topic. You don't actually care about anti-natalism, you care about being called out because you can't emotionally handle the idea of being wrong.
That's an insane reduction of my argument
That's also not what I said, and "just fuckin do it" is the point I was making. I was saying that having kids and raising them in that way had relatively better potential to reduce suffering than not having kids at all, not that it was the only or most effective way to do it.
You clearly didn't read or try to engage with what I wrote. You're the one that compared human population control to euthanizing dogs, as if that would actually solve anything, and refused to elaborate when I pointed out that it wouldn't. I'm not the one in bad faith here and I'm done responding to this thread. No, I don't care to learn about ideologies that seek to "improve" the human condition by removing humans from the equation that aren't even materially responsible for these conditions in the first place.
Removing humans? Again, shows how little you understand about anti-natalism. There is no 'removing humans' involved if they aren't born in the first place.
I love how you substituted 'sterilize' with 'euthanize' as if they were the same thing, and then claim that I was the one who didn't try to engage.
If you don't care to learn you should have said so earlier. Anti-intellectuallism, bad faith arguments, pronatalism, false attribution, deflection, and projection are all hallmarks of conservatism. Go and take your conversative shit somewhere else.
lmfao project harder fascist
and while you're at it, pick up a fucking book. Your reading comprehension is atrocious.
Lmao complaining about my reading comprehension when you confused 'sterilize' with 'euthanize' is a whole other level of hypocrisy.
Keeps complaining after claiming after you're 'done responding to this thread'.
Words just don't mean anything to you. You like to say whatever soothes your precious little ego and then backtrack when you get called out on it.
You sure are having fun being mad over a single word when you still compared humans to controlling the population of dogs. The word "sterilize" does not improve the ethics here in the slightest. Euthanasea is not a very far leap to make once you've done the work of, I repeat, reducing human beings to the level of dogs. But nevermind that. Nevermind the indigenous people, blacks, immigrants, and so on, that have been sterilized against their will. That was actually to reduce suffering, you see, and not fascist at all!! Nevermind the 8 other paragraphs I wrote about why that's unnecessary in the first place and is more an expression of your contempt for humanity than it is an actual solution to anything.
What a weird thing to gloat about and not think about the real world implications of in any way whatsoever! I am the one who cares about words, my words say absolutely nothing about me at all! Soothe your ego and backtrack because you have been bested in debate! Bet you feel real bad right now!! Lmfao you fascists are so funny sometimes.
Anyways, I'm busy fighting fascists like you in real material ways. Kindly fuck off and have the day you're very clearly already having.
It's clear from the moment you called anti-natalism fascism that words don't mean anything to regressive fuckwits like you anymore.
How about you "go join q-anon and suck Charlie Kirk's decomposing dick while you tout your 'family values' and pump out kids with room temperature IQ."? See? I can also use words the same way you use 'fascism' to make a meaningless word salad.
Just because you can't handle valid criticism it doesn't make others fascist for calling you out. Go sit down and think of something original to write instead of copying everything I said with a flimsy ass 'no u'. Everything you deflect is just another projection of yours.