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I am LOVING Proton's new AI, Lumo! Are there any concerns I need to take with Proton as a company? Heard something recently about them getting fashy.
Well what I don't love is that it's not open source. The interface is open-source, and it's definitely an important step, but the actual "AI" or LLM and the backend it uses https://proton.me/blog/lumo-security-model is not.
That's unfortunate because other open source project that use "AI" (quotes here because the term is... it's just not intelligence but anyway) like Immich, even though focusing on another topic (namely images) could benefit from that for https://github.com/immich-app/immich/tree/main/machine-learning
So... I'm a Proton client, Visionary for years, and I do NOT like AI... but if they absolutely mush shove it down my throat at least :
otherwise I will assume something under is not right.
Overall it feels like Proton has great intention but more and more uses the excuse of privacy to keep secret that are unfortunately detrimental to individual users and the privacy community overall.
Thank you for taking the time to explain this! It really helps me better understand it.
With pleasure, thanks for the positive feedback. I'm not an expert but I did write a little bit on self-hosting AI on my wiki https://fabien.benetou.fr/Content/SelfHostingArtificialIntelligence so feel free to have a look and if you have questions, happy to help if I can.
Awesome! That's exactly what I started working on after your response. I got Llama chat and started working with the tiny Llama model. So I'll definitely give that a read.