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Russian warplanes breach NATO airspace over Estonia (www.politico.eu)

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[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 20 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Iran

Literally a few weeks ago (and probably on other occasions).

Korea

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War

Vietnam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War

Cuba

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_of_Pigs_Invasion

It's honestly amazing how lacking in awareness you are.

[+] prosecute_traitors@lemmy.zip -12 points 2 weeks ago

NATO is not the US.

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 18 points 2 weeks ago

NATO is comprised of the US and the US' glorified provinces.

If you want to distance the less major colonial robbers and genocidaires from things like these, you have to demonstrate that they do not assist the US, including that they do not promise to help fight whoever attacks the US in response to such actions.

[+] prosecute_traitors@lemmy.zip -15 points 2 weeks ago

No. The way this works is you made a false statement. So you are wrong. It doesn't mean I have to prove anything.

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No

Yes.

The way this works is you made a false statement

Conveniently, you can't point to any false statements that I made. All you have is excuses and apologia for your invasions and genocides. Actually, not even that, in this case.

So you are wrong

You are yet to point to anything that I am supposedly wrong about.
Meanwhile, you have literally claimed that Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran, and other countries are all just one country. You have also failed to point to any countries that Russia supposedly 'also invaded'.

[+] prosecute_traitors@lemmy.zip -13 points 2 weeks ago

NATO is not the US.

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 16 points 2 weeks ago

The US is, however, a part of NATO, and its de facto owner.

[-] Sherad@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago

That vague argument could be made, but you are the one now making a claim, and I'd like to see you provide something that shows that, materially speaking, they don't do whatever the US wants like, 90% of the time.

Like obvs there are other countries involved, but ultimately, do they do much without the consent or direction of the US? Like direct, concrete action, and not just fluff?

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 weeks ago

NATO is dominated by the US. NATO is the alliance of imperialist countries, and the US is the top imperialist country. The US controls the vast majority of NATO, and the secondary members participate insofar as they wish to perpetuate their imperialist dominance as secondary empires.