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[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org -1 points 1 week ago

Software gets updated and they will introduce new security issues over time.

well the software of those phones certainly did not get updated, so no, no new security bugs are introduced for them

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 1 points 1 week ago

I meant over the lifetime after its first launch, they will updated. You said all bugs are there since day one, which is not true, because software gets updated until end of life. And then unknown bugs at that time are not patched and new vulnerabilities are discovered after they stop getting patches. Why am I even explaining this? Its really basic.

But I see you think that old operating systems (which is extremely rich and complicated and error prone) which do no longer get patches and are used by millions, are perfect software and nobody will try to hack them...

[-] ReversalHatchery@beehaw.org -1 points 1 week ago

You said all bugs are there since day one,

I'm a different person

I meant over the lifetime after its first launch, they will updated.

that's right, but after the phone does not get any more updates, it does not get more features either and so the number of bugs does not change anymore. the bugs exploitable in my 6 years old phone were exploitable much earlier.

But I see you think that old operating systems (which is extremely rich and complicated and error prone) which do no longer get patches and are used by millions, are perfect software and nobody will try to hack them...

I do not. the bugs are there, but when the maintenance stops there are no new bugs anymore, they were there for a while

[-] thingsiplay@beehaw.org 2 points 1 week ago

Sure, no new bugs will be programmed into it after support has stopped, but that was not the original discussion about. But that does not mean the software is perfect, especially not a complex operating system that also allows to visit the web and install new applications. There are countless unknown (and known) security issues waiting to be exploited. A 5 year or unsupported older operating system is a time bomb.

The original discussion was "its okay to use unsupported old Android, because all unpatched bugs after its support are there since day one". And that new (supported) phones and operating systems are less secure because of that. That was the argumentation I am going against.

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