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The interview is worth reading. Macron is walking a political tightrope, and I find plenty that's not up to my personal preferences, but a -1 is the idea of a UN peacekeeping force, which invites USA soldiers, not to mention the usual problems that accompany UN peacekeeping troops. Not sure if a regional coalition is better though.
+.5 for not outright rejecting Zionism, but saying disagreement with the Israeli regime is not antisemitism, and crazy making.
But overall, this is the most hope that governments are starting to actually rethink policy in the region, and while it's minimal, it's a lot better than in recent memory. A toe in the ocean, but closer to the ocean than recent out-of-the-atmosphere proximity to the ocean.
It's definitely one of the more sober interviews by western standards. Perhaps there is hope that these people will start engaging with reality at some point.
I think Macron is more aware than he can politically say. He also called US diplomacy unacceptable, which is a diplomatic way of saying "bat-guano insane." I'd eager the rest of Europe is waking up. They remain dependent on and cowed by the US. I would imagine they are meeting on as big a sly as possible to figure out how to extricate themselves from the trap they so eagerly entered decades ago, although I obviously can't know.
I'm very much expecting a huge political shake up in the west in the coming years.
Hope so, and that it shakes out well, for more good for everyone.
Seems like Macron has realized that Trump's plan is the bleed US vassals dry through protection rackets, tarffis, and liquiified natural gas. Pissing off Russia and maybe starting a war with them is a terrible idea since Europe will need Russian energy.
Also he has the pressure of Europe's strongest left movement by far forcing him into slightly more reasonable positions.
Yes, I refrained in mentioning it in a recent thread elsewhere on grad, as did others. I think it's glaringly obvious to everyone with a working memory of last two winters, among myriad other pragmatic concerns.