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[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

An appeal to majority, authority, or tradition (your comment might be all 3) does not supersede my own reason and experience.

[-] fort_burp@feddit.nl 2 points 1 day ago

You mean your subjective experience?

[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 21 hours ago

Exactly. All experience is subjective, and so is morality.

[-] fort_burp@feddit.nl 2 points 21 hours ago

the world doesn’t even have objective morality

Deductions based on subjective information got you here. Or did you objectively observe (through, for example, objective experimentation) that there is no objective morality?

That's what therapygary was trying to tell you, but not sure why they expected your subjective experience to realize the contradiction it itself is based on, lol.

[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

Can you define objective morality for me please? What exactly would the world look like if there was objective morality?

[-] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 19 hours ago

The world would look the same way it does now with or without objective morality. Objective morality is just the idea that moral truths exist independent of individual beliefs. E.g., that raping babies is an inherently immoral thing regardless of an individual's feelings about it

Again though, I personally don't believe this. I just won't claim to know that there is no objective morality. No one can know that, the same way no one can know that there's no god, or anything else unfalsifiable

The best argument I've heard for it, from a moral philosophy professor and personal friend of mine, is (paraphrasing) "I know for a fact that genocide is inherently wrong, and I'm not open to debating that. It's just true."

[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 17 hours ago

What would it mean that it's 'inherently' wrong, though? Where would the judgement come from? And if it does come from somewhere (eg evolutionary psychology, a god), doesn't that make it just the subjective morality of that thing?

[-] TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 day ago

Your reasoning is bad- I was just trying to point it out gently without being too explicit about calling you out for the arrogant moron you are.

[-] TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I'm happy for you to point out the flaw in my reasoning, so far all you've done is criticise me.

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