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It takes more than the simple majority to get the budget approved. They need 7 votes from the Democrats to pass it.
Adding this because I don't see it explained anywhere else:
It takes 60/100 votes to pass the budget bills in the Senate, instead of 51, because the Senate still has a filibuster. The minority Democrats have the power to stop the vote from coming up by simply talking on the floor forever until the Republicans give up and go home.
The 53-47 vote was for a cloture motion, which is to put time limits on debate on a particular budget bill. The rules don't let Dems filibuster the cloture motion for obvious reasons, so that vote happened. But it takes 60 votes to pass cloture, so it went down.
Now, there are some resolutions that don't involve coming to a compromise:
The budget can bypass the filibuster (for the most part). They would have to let the Democrats bs for 20 hrs and then it would only take 51 votes to pass the budget. (Or at least the majority of it that I know of). This is intentional, but if they are putting extraneous bologna in the bill, that would cause it to need 60 for those parts. But all of the budgetary needs should be 51
There is a rule that the reconciliation bill can pass on 51. But there are two main limits on reconciliation:
Reconciliation has to be at least nominally about the budget, as you said, and
Only one reconciliation bill per fiscal year.
The Republicans already shot their reconciliation shot with the BBB. They can't do it again until the next fiscal year (which arrives tomorrow, so they can get started).
2 isn't correct though, there is no limitations on the number of reconciliations that can be filed.
You can file one for every budget resolution made. Which being that this is a different resolution than the BBB which already passed, it has no ties or limitations to it
From The Wiki:
Edit: Are you saying the Senate and House made two identical budget resolutions in this year? Or is it just that Senate Republicans don't want to blow reconciliation for the next year on what is probably mostly continuing resolution?
That information doesn't line up with History. When a second budget is drawn up in the same year, you can reconcile it.
Say 2021, budget passed in February, then the "Build Back Better Act" went to reconciliation in 2021 and failed.
But it didn't fail do to reconciliation limits, but rather votes
Is it 51 or 50 plus the vice president?
It’s majority of the senate present with quorum. The vp only votes in ties.
Everything that says 51 can be read as 50 plus VP,.
And since the GOP shits on everything left of far right atm, they get to be petty and maybe get some ground back. Plus last time around, the Dems had leverage and blew it spectacularly. Schumer wrote a strongly worded letter I believe. I feel bad for federal workers, but this government needs a rework anyhow. And not the technocratic, corpo, or fascist facelift some seem to yearn for.