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Complete nonsense; the categorization of "totalitarian regimes" is also total nonsense aimed at excusing imperialism and Euro-fascism. Specifically with regard to the PRC, their prison population is lower than the U.S. (notable because the U.S. has 1/4 of the population of the PRC), and their per-capita prison population doesn't reach the top 10 (unlike the U.S. as per). This doesn't even begin to explore how the Chinese political system better serves the masses, for instance with regard to 1/10 of the eligible population being members of the CPC in various levels.
This doesn't matter, and the U.S. will never be called "totalitarian", precisely because these incorrect categorizations were formed to lend the West credibility. With Laos, state media control is only a secondary to global media control (I would love to mention here also how the U.S. hid their carpet bombing of Laos from the public, although naturally this won't be addressed).
The USA should absolutely be called totalitarian. Their prison industrial complex is fed a constant stream of bodies. Laws created just to keep the slave labour flowing.
I never for one second suggested that the USA are the good guys. They are international aggressors that feed on war. Locally they have zero care or regard for their own population. The best healthcare in the world, but only if you can afford to pay. Housing affordability so bad that the homeless population grows year on year with no end in site...people just die in the cold.
What I don't understand is how you can bury your head in the sand on China. How can you sit there with any conviction and sing their praises?
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/china-allegedly-has-two-secret-police-stations-in-australia-what-do-we-know-about-them/dz2lmxb13
This is happening where I live. We have a large number of Chinese students at our Universities. Some of them get politically activated whilst they are here, and with a bit of a break from the brainwashing they realise what they are living under at home, maybe they say the wrong thing within earshot of one of the many party spies planted at their university. Maybe nobody ever sees them again.
It's not a system I am in any way interested in supporting, yet I'm typing this on a Chinese phone. I'm complicit in brutality, just not as much as you.
Barely a response. I'll tackle the "secret 'police stations'" bit (Safeguard Defenders report) since it has already been addressed by the Paul Tsai China Centre of Yale.
"Maybe nobody ever sees them again", prove this. "Maybe this happens then maybe this happens then maybe (maybe) this happens" isn't an argument. If China is forcing everyone to agree, wouldn't 100% of respondents in non-govnt. polls say they completely support the party/government at all levels, at least after a couple trials of rooting out the dissidents? It doesn't make sense (the Harvard study also refutes this mode of analysis, but this was ignored of course). I've shown you to be incorrect repeatedly [1] [2], and yet none of this is addressed.
Great response! You have incredible patience
Disappearing people is something the USA did and taught dictators and similar all around the world including South America. This image of Pinochet and alike is what they evoke with the sentence. "Nobody" means death. This is as you rightly called out propaganda.