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So Americans, you ready to put a stop to this yet?
General strike now. Shut it down. Organize, disrupt, disobey.
Don't worry, there will surely be people left to speak up for us when they come for us.
Sure, I'll just go ahead and lose my job now and deprive my family of food and shelter before the Nazis get a chance to do so.
I'm all for calling out Nazi bullshit, but blanket statements like this help absolutely nobody.
You really think business are going to mass fire people if we have a general strike? Do you even know what that is?
Chickenshit response
"I don't have people depending on me" ass response.
The vast majority of people involved in the entire history of organized labor had families. You're not helping the people who depend on you by being a coward.
I help my wife by paying for her insanely expensive scleral lenses that she needs in order to fucking SEE.
I help my kids by providing a stable grocery budget, reliable transportation to school and back, clothes, and shelter.
I help my nonverbal preschooler by taking him to weekly speech therapy while my wife handles the rest of the family.
You cannot help others when you can't even help your own family. And calling the people who are literally unable to do anything outside of that, "cowards", doesn't help anybody and makes YOU a gigantic piece of shit for refusing to even try putting yourself in someone else's shoes.
I am doing everything I possibly can in my power, and more, just to keep my family afloat, then you fucking shitheels come in with nobody directly depending on you, point at people like me while puffing your chest out, proclaiming for all to hear: "LOOK, HE IS NOT WILLING TO DO SUCH A SIMPLE TASK, HE IS A COWARD AND A BAD MAN".
Unempathetic people like you are the entire reason for humanity's pitfalls.
Do yourself a favor: go fuck a cactus.
That's a whole lot of words to say "no fuck you I like being a coward and I resent being told to stop or take any responsibility whatsoever for the state of the world my children will inherit"
You don't have a clue whether I or any of the other people who've clearly told you this before have got dependents or not, and you don't actually care. You're just looking for any excuse you can find to ignore valid criticism, and in the absence of a coherent argument to support your spinelessness you're more than happy to make shit up to discredit your critics. Trump would be proud.
Yes, I'm totally chickenshit for choosing to keep my family fed and sheltered over a call to revolution made by some pissant on the Internet larping as a leftist guerilla.
The vast majority of people involved in the entire history of organized labor had families. You’re not helping the people who depend on you by being a coward.
Cool. Let me know when you find a modern labor movement that isn't sucking neoliberal cock or still living in 1918.
Excuses
Blow it out your ass, kid. The only thing you've ever organized is your striped sock collection.
I'm sure believing that helps you feel better about being a fucking coward, it definitely doesn't help anything else
It takes a real man to know when to let those more capable lead the revolution.
Nah, bro. Fuck your vanguards. I'm just not interested in ruining my wife's life because I fell in with some first semester anarchists who think good praxis is scolding working people just trying to survive for not storming a federal building.
Nobody is saying you have to lead anything, just find someone worth following and start following
I've watched documentaries and studied the rise of Hitler and the Nazis, I don't think Trump will get that powerful. Germany was in bad shape post WW2, and Hitler was quite young, energetic and commanding with a clear vision for his future. Trump is old, tired, and has broken too many promises to his base.
As long as the press mostly stays free, and journalists don't face punitive measures for their reporting, Trump will come and go.
The problem is that Trump is speed running the country into shithole status (economically, I know we were already there on the healthcare, housing and wealth inequality fronts).
And the smart assholes with ambition are running the show, Miller, Vance and Johnson.
Oof...you guys wanna tell 'em or should I? :(
Unemployed people be like:
Speaking of, I am a little familiar with this group https://generalstrikeus.com/
I don't see it discussed much in fediverse channels, and I don't really know why. Curious to hear what people think of them. But they're the only group pushing for a general strike that I can think of off the top of my head.
I think the general strike is the best bet because they’re looking for a reason or excuse to have the military start massacring civilians. I honestly think a widespread peaceful general strike shutting down the economy until the oligarchs cry mercy is our best hope in this situation
Economic power is the basis of all the megaviolence. General strikes recuperate the true source of the power: worker productivity. Do it now before automation makes it moot.
Not gonna happen. Half of the country isn't aware anything is wrong.
Hell, a good chunk of them are sold on it. Get a perspective outside of a city, or take, I dunno, North Carolina as an example.
The fuck has happened in NC since January? Nothing, and that's their experience. Same-same, yada-yada. Riot? Why?
There's a small amount of resistance in rural Tennessee but the general population is hypnotized by fox news.
fox is there to ensure that thier own violent masses(R voters) dont rise up with the "Ds' to protest/strike, the GOP positions is precarious
Sign your general strike card! It only takes 3.5% of the population to bring the economy to its knees.
A strike doesnt have to mean a work stoppage.
If you're at a factory–keep making stuff, but be real hard on the machines, and take all the product home with you at end of shift. Maybe sell it on e-bay for union dues or give it out to the community.
If you're a mechanic; keep fixing cars fir people whose cars you want to work, but dont charge them, or use the best parts while saying you used cheap ones. Do a fun elaborate high efficiency rebuild for the single mom with the disintegrating engine who just came in to get that weird noise looked at. Sabotage the personal car of that cop that came in. Steal stuff. Bill the rich assholes you don't want to see again for everyone else's repairs.
If you're a school teacher–show up and teach real american history. Start off with Iran-contra, cointelpro, whatever you think will light a fire in your students. Communist literature, useful everyday black hat shit, the chemistry of tear gas, evolutionary advantage of homosexuality or why 'biological sex' is a goofy idea, authoritarian psychology, whatever's in your wheelhouse.
If you're in medicine–keep doing your job, but do it to your and your union's standards. Give out free drugs at the hospitals expense (maybe keep tracking the addictive stuff) bill everything to a board member fudge patient info so insurance will pay. Or just treat all patients who show up while skipping insurance or billing info that day, and record the efficiency gains.
Generally reclaim or sabotage the means of production in whatever ways you touch, for whatever causes you think are cool.
Who's fucking idea was it to wait until the 18the of October to do No Kings 2?
I’ve been to several of the protests organized by those groups and I don’t think they are controller opposition but they seem to operate like psychological pressure release valves. We all feel like we’re doing something that will change things but until that mass of people shows up and then refuses to leave rather than dispersing after it actually won’t make a difference
people are still content, because it hasnt reached the HCOL or affluent areas at all(trump and friends probably want to avoid the rich areas). the only strike that put the govt at uneasey position was the railroad strikes, since thats a lifeblood of commerce.
Um... I work in elder care. If my team strikes 80+ will die.
We're not talking about you specifically, and it detracts from the message and the seriousness of the situation to use your specific situation as possibly representative of the rest of the country. If all people who can would strike, then we would be in a good place. You're an essential worker. We're not trying to kill off our elders.
I think the violence will continue (and probably escalate) until the United States of America are split apart. There cannot be one central federal government. Political power must be shifted to the states. Unfortunately, due to historical reasons, not enough people are understanding this yet, because a federal system has worked so well in the past, that it first needs to be proven by Trump that the potential for abuse at the federal level is huge, and only then will the States get their Rights.
Diasgree. With no federal apparatus to guide the force of all 50 states they are weaker on their lonesome and calling aid from one to another is far more burdensome. Besides, red states rely on federal funding from taxes in blue states and would collapse without them. Red states are major crop producers that the blue states consume. Balance of powers is the best bet. It's not perfect but it's far superior to dissolving the federal government which would undoubtadly start inter-state and civil wars. Unfortunately, the human propensity for conflict is best utilized in keeping each other in check and is best coupled with rewarding those who suppress suppression and are prepared to employ violence against the violent.
I'd say that's a reason to split apart. (slight /s)
Or, you know, kick the bastards out, and close all the authoritarian loopholes. More democracy, stop subsidizing the fuck out of the rich, move that to education and research. Mandate empiricism in governance.
End US imperialism in favour of multilateral partnerships, especially around the 800 or so military bases in other countries, or else that shit returns home and gets used on Americans. The ship has sailed on being the one superpower. Adapt and evolve.
Myself, I favour smaller polities wherever possible, but given the current lack of an egalitarian basis to start from, breaking the states into countries will be a feast for the oligarchs.
I think its called game theory? Or maybe prisoner dilema. We are afraid that enough of the country is in support of the nazi regime that the strikers will lose their jobs
It's what everyone is conditioned to think and believe
In reality, if they fight they might lose their jobs ...
.... if they wait to see what else happens, they'll probably lose their jobs anyway
You're damned if you do and damned if you don't ... if you do nothing, there is more of a chance of losing everything but if you fight back or at least protest peacefully and disrupt and disobey, there is enough of a chance that you and everyone else will have much more to gain.
some still doesnt think its got to a critical point where its affecting them yet. if your living in HCOL its unlikely people will see the same situation as in illinois
Happy medium: educate and organize, in preparation for the moment.
How about: Move to a country that's not on the verge of big explosion
We have no way of carrying out a general strike right now. GSUSA is a pretty good group trying to build capacity, and UAW President Shawn Fain is pushing for unions to renegotiate their contracts so that they all end on May 1st 2028, obvs including UAW.
General Strikes are illegal in the USA, a union can't call a legal solidarity strike, thanks to Taft-Hartley. I'm not a legalism guy, I think legalism is an illusion the workers need to overcome. But the fact is, we haven't overcome it. Even a lot of pretty militant leftist groups in the US have a "new constitutional convention" fetish, it's even in the old DSA program.
There is no infrastructure for it. A few dozen Americans on Lemmy not showing up for work isn't gonna do shit. The best chance we got is 2028, which will be badass if Trump is still in office.
There is so much work to do and frankly its frustrating when people are like "just do impossible thing". Stand up and help us we need help so badly. I think a lot of people in USamerica who say this kind of shit have absolutely no fucking clue what they're talking about. No one wants to give up a fraction of their quality of life to have a political discussion about real shit. People just want someone else to come along and save them, and then even if someone does come along, complain if we don't have our butt kissed just the way we like it. The only thing we know how to do is speak to a manager. We are a nation of Karens. We are not ready.
He will never leave office willingly. He tried to overthrow the government last time he lost and this time he's a LOT better entrenched. You can't vote out a dictator. If you don't act and put your hopes in an election that won't help you, you've already lost your democracy. And honestly, you'll deserve it.