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This is not true, group chats with more than two members on Telegram are NEVER encrypted. Telegram admins have full access to see the contents of these private chats, and have the ability to respond to court orders, but they were ignoring those requests. This is why he was arrested. Google/YouTube respond to court orders and do take stuff down, and actual encrypted messengers like Signal have no way to see the contents of the messages, which is why the owners and operators of these services have never been arrested.
They aren't encrypted, hence why I never said they were. This is something your cooked mind imagined so you can argue with yourself.
Private Groups: Only members can see messages. Admins cannot view messages unless they are part of the conversation.
This means if "Crimegroup" has shady stuff in the group if no member snitched it wouldn't be known for them to even delete it. While telegram (the company or workers) could look right in they would need to know it's an illegal group first because luckily they aren't spying on everyone by default
If messages aren't end to end encrypted, then their contents of the messages can be intercepted by Telegram or any adversary who has access to Telegram's systems. This is what the US Government was doing with Prism to suck in unencrypted data from ISPs without their knowledge. By not having end to end encryption, you have to trust that Telegram administrators are being truthful when they say they're not looking at your messages, and that their systems are never compromised by crimegroups or nation states without Telegram's knowledge.
True. It is a trust thing. Thats why I don't trust telegram for privacy. But I use it to follow groups