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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by Charger8232@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

VPN Comparison

After making a post about comparing VPN providers, I received a lot of requested feedback. I've implemented most of the ideas I received.

Providers

Notes

  • I'm human. I make mistakes. I made multiple mistakes in my last post, and there may be some here. I've tried my best.
  • Pricing is sometimes weird. For example, a 1 year plan for Private Internet Access is 37.19€ first year and then auto-renews annually at 46.73€. By the way, they misspelled "annually". AirVPN has a 3 day pricing plan. For the instances when pricing is weird, I did what I felt was best on a case-by-case basis.
  • Tor is not a VPN, but there are multiple apps that allow you to use it like a VPN. They've released an official Tor VPN app for Android, and there is a verified Flatpak called Carburetor which you can use to use Tor like a VPN on secureblue (Linux). It's not unreasonable to add this to the list.
  • Some projects use different licenses for different platforms. For example, NordVPN has an open source Linux client. However, to call NordVPN open source would be like calling a meat sandwich vegan because the bread is vegan.
  • The age of a VPN isn't a good indicator of how secure it is. There could be a trustworthy VPN that's been around for 10 years but uses insecure, outdated code, and a new VPN that's been around for 10 days but uses up-to-date, modern code.
  • Some VPNs, like Surfshark VPN, operate in multiple countries. Legality may vary.
  • All of the VPNs claim a "no log" policy, but there's some I trust more than others to actually uphold that.
  • Tor is special in the port forwarding category, because it depends on what you're using port forwarding for. In some cases, Tor doesn't need port forwarding.
  • Tor technically doesn't have a WireGuard profile, but you could (probably?) create one.

Takeaways

  • If you don't mind the speed cost, Tor is a really good option to protect your IP address.
  • If you're on a budget, NymVPN, Private Internet Access, and Surfshark VPN are generally the cheapest. If you're paying month-by-month, Mullvad VPN still can't be beat.
  • If you want VPNs that go out of their way to collect as little information as possible, IVPN, Mullvad VPN, and NymVPN don't require any personal information to use. And Tor, of course.

ODS file: https://files.catbox.moe/cly0o6.ods

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[-] cmhe@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

Na... The likelyhood of installing some bad or fake app from google play store is much higher than on fdroid.

[-] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago

i think the security issues are not about fake apps, but about fdroid signing the builds themself, while their build infrastrcuture is described as insecure

[-] cmhe@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The issue there AFAIK is that some app builds aren't fully reproducible, because if they were the developer signature would still apply and be used. In the reproducible case the security of the build infra wouldn't matter, because the same app would be produced the same regardless were they are build.

Without reproducible builds, you cannot really trust the software anyway, because the Dev could hook some hidden code only for the released binary app and sign that.

[-] Corridor8031@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

uhm no not really? I mean reproducible builds are used to cross verfiy that it is the same binary in this case, but like android has no mechanism to do that, this is not how it works.

that a build should be reproducible is more about your second point and doesnt really have anything to do with fdroid, as far as i know

Edit: these links should explain it all: https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/21675-fdroid-security/2

[-] cmhe@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Once it passes inspection, the F-Droid build service compiles and packages the app to make it ready for distribution. The package is then signed either with F-Droid’s cryptographic key, or, if the build is reproducible, enables distribution using the original developer’s private key. In this way, users can trust that any app distributed through F-Droid is the one that was built from the specified source code and has not been tampered with.

https://f-droid.org/en/2025/09/29/google-developer-registration-decree.html

this post was submitted on 10 Oct 2025
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