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Jason Bassler | @JasonBassler1

Big Brother just got an upgrade.

Starting December, Amazon’s Ring cameras will scan and recognize faces. Don’t want to be in their database? Too bad — walk past a Ring and your face can be stored, tagged, & analyzed without consent.

One step closer to total surveillance.

[Image: A Ring doorbell camera mounted on a brick wall. A digital overlay shows facial recognition scanning a person's face with grid lines. Text on the right reads "Amazon's Ring Adds Facial Recognition to Home Security" with additional text below.]

6:00 PM | Oct 4, 2025

Source: https://x.com/JasonBassler1/status/1974640686419857516

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[-] Confused_Emus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 7 months ago

Great, my downstairs neighbor has one of these things that everyone has to walk by when going in or out of the main building. Why she needs one in an apartment building with a locked main door that you have to unlock yourself for guests is a mystery to me.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Simple - Because she doesn't trust the strangers living in the building any more than the strangers on the outside. I don't blame her one bit. In my lifetime, I've seen countless stories of women being raped and/or murdered by other tenants and the complex 's own security.

In the olden days, before electricity, I used to be friendly with a neighbor, and she became convinced that someone was sneaking into her apartment when she was at work, and stealing her underwear and prescription meds. She took a day off because she was under the weather, and one of the maintenance guys, who was always overly-friendly, unlocked her door, and walked right in.

It turned out that he'd been warned about this before, and he was fired. But if she, or other neighbors, had Ring cameras, they would have caught on to him immediately.

[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

A camera inside her apartment would have the same results without invading the privacy of every other tenant in the building.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 3 points 7 months ago

In that specific case, but most people want to identify people BEFORE they enter their promises. I'm not opening my door to any cops, for instance, unless they can slide a warrant under the door.

You are missing the point entirely. There are about a million reasonable reasons someone would want to have a doorbell camera, and they have every right to them. The owner of the camera isn't violating your privacy, AMAZON is doing that by collecting the data from a privately-owned source who hasn't given permission to hijack data from their device.

Don't be mad at the tenant for protecting their safety, be mad at Amazon for exploiting that reasonable fear, encouraging people to get Ring cameras, and then stealing the data they collect.

[-] stickly@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Is it too much to ask for a doorbell camera to operate like a doorbell? We've had peepholes on doors that can be opened and checked when needed for years with no problem, why do we suddenly need constant surveillance of the public commons? This is also on the owner for buying into the scare tactics.

IMO it should be flat out illegal to have any permanent camera that monitors a public space. I don't consent to have a stalker track when I enter and leave my home, I won't consent to have a neighbor do the same.

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 7 months ago

Exactly. Why the fuck is it on at all times?

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 0 points 7 months ago

Why did a maintenance guy have access to her home?

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 7 months ago

Maintenance in apartment complexes always have access to any apartment, in case of fire, overflowing bathtubs, inspections, deaths, smoke detector battery replacement, etc. They are supposed to give 24 hours notice, but the point is that a nefarious character could gain access to any apartment in the complex, if they don't keep their master keys secure.

We had a case recently of a murder in a gated complex. A maintenance guy got obsessed by the 19 year old daughter of a resident, and eventually kidnapped, raped, and murdered her. All because he had access to the master keys. They ended up passing some law under her name. I think they have to do a better job of clearing their criminal backgrounds, which would have caught this guy. It seems like keeping the master keys under better security should be a major thing, too.

[-] Dojan@pawb.social 0 points 7 months ago

That's nuts.

Like, the landlord/maintenance people here do have a master key, but it doesn't work unless the flat is locked from the outside and set in a particular position. If you lock it from the inside, or don't put it in the special position, they can't access the flat.

[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 1 points 7 months ago

There are inside devices that could stop someone with a master key, like chain locks, but you have to be in the apartment. Once you leave, you obviously can't set the chain, and anyone with a master key, or is a good lock picker, can get in.

I've never heard of setting the bolt a certain way, except maybe in hotels. Even then, it only works if someone is physically in the room.

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