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You joke, but when this all started to unravel two years ago, it actually did bounce. Not much, but it did. Was clear as day it's going bankrupt, but then CCP stepped in and it all simply stopped.
Investors are almost all a highly regarded lot.
Evergrande represents most of the working class savings for China as well, as if you ever have money to invest you buy real estate in China.
I'm sorry, but you're not buying real estate.
The government owns it, you're buying a 99 year lease (at best) that the government might revoke at any time for any reason (such as they feel like it).
There is nowhere in china to safely invest money, that's the point of china.
The quibbling detail does not change the larger macroeconomic picture.
If you're in China the stock market is incredibly volatile. Buying property is the "safe bet" so everyone does it, often saving aggressively to buy.
80% of urban households own, 20% own a second home as well.
It doesn't matter what the legal details are, in a broad sense the multi trillion dollar real estate industry going broke in a country that only invests in real estate is everyone's problem.
Yeah, but 2 points:
1: the stock market is completely fictitious which is why it is so volatile.
2: only poors invest in chinese real estate, anyone with any real money invests in foreign real estate