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I mean there is shit like Deuternonom 23, 1
Maybe just don't give a shit about some non-sensical book some dudes in the desert made up.
The verse was meant to discourage religious eunichs, as so many verses were just meant to enact a change within a group of people long ago, the entire book of Deuteronomy for instance was telling Jews a specific code to live by, including sanitation and hygiene laws. Good way to encode your culture's safeguards, bad way to ensure their future peace.
Yeah sure, all the uncomfortable verses always mean something different while all the positive verses are true and valid even without context.
You're giving transphobic bigots too much credit; no one reads a verse saying that eunuchs aren't allowed in the temple and infers that it's a sin to be trans.
They aren't reading the Bible and then developing prejudices based on what it says; that's not what's happening here.
Instead, what they are doing is starting with the prejudices they already have and then fishing through the Bible trying to find anything that even remotely matches so they can twist it into a post-hoc justification.
In this specific case, that verse doesn't justify their position in any way shape or form.
The only reason anyone would interpret that as condemnation of trans people is if they're actively looking for excuses to condemn them.
First off, that verse is talking about eunuchs rather than trans people, which is actually a really important distinction.
Further, that verse doesn't even say that being a eunuch is bad; it just says they're not allowed to enter the temple. which, for what it's worth, hasn't even existed for thousands of years.
Moreover, it is immediately followed by a verse saying the same thing about anyone whose ancestors (up to 10 generations back) were illegitimate children.
So, you can't interpret it as saying that it's a sin to be trans unless you also interpret it as saying it's a sin to have great-great-great grandparents who weren't married.
You're right that neither the Bible nor any other religious text is a legitimate reason to persecute people, but that's not what's going on here.
They aren't motivated by what the Bible teaches, they're motivated by bigotry and performing mental acrobatics to try to find anything in the Bible that they can somehow twist into an excuse for their bigotry.
Didn’t Jesus say he was the new covenant therefore ignore all the ancient laws and follow Jesus? Jesus himself is unworthy if you follow the Old Testament
Matthew 5, 18:
In short: Nope.
In practice, Christians don't think this means all old testament laws remain in force literally. That's a contradiction when they want to use literalism elsewhere, but that's not most Christians.
If they aren't ripping apart a pigeon and lighting it on fire on a rock after touching any wild game meat, then they're not a true Christian.
What defines "true Christian" for you? Can he put sugar on his porridge?
Someone that follows the instructions of the book they believe in, where the book says to follow Every instruction.
Of course they don't, cause that would be uncomfortable. I know, cause I used to think the same way before ridding myself of faith.
That sounds like something of a thought terminating cliche. I think it's at once simpler and more complicated.
Simpler because most Christians don't think overly much about their beliefs and believe their church's doctrine. More complicated because many do, and those that do think way beyond what's "comfortable". Scholarship going back millennia had dispelled - for scholars - any notion of biblical inerrancy, never mind literalism. For those who don't believe the Bible's plain reading is all true, there is no discomfort here - it would be a supreme arrogance to accuse minds such as Anselm, Augustine and Aquinas of merely believing whatever feels comfortable.
That doesn't mean they're right obviously, but you can do better than such dismissal.