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[-] AtariDump@lemmy.world 44 points 5 months ago
[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 months ago

Remember, God doesn't make mistakes. So if God made you trans and put you here in this time where you have the options to explore that, well... seems pretty clear to me.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 8 points 5 months ago

It's either all part of God's plan, or none of it is.

[-] MotoAsh@piefed.social 21 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Wait, this depends on how someone views it... If they're a fucking idiot with a child's understanding, a binary reality means it requires altering someones' body to transition. That's the only perspective where it's "modifying" someones' body.

If you're an adult with a developed brain and a basic highschool understanding of genetics, it's not exactly modifying ones' body, but merely influencing hormones to reflect how someone feels.

If you're an adult with a collegiate level of understanding, then people 'feeling' like a different gender is the fucking tip of the iceberg, and genetics fucking demonstrates that it's way more complex.

What is said in the bible, is that reality is more complex than dummies can understand, so leave judging up to God.

[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 5 months ago

I like how dickheads pick and choose which parts of the old testament to follow and which bits of the new to ignore as suits their bigotry and hate

[-] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Even funnier when they never took any religious studies class or anything.

I hate gatekeeping too but "it's up to interpretation" used to imply they know fundamentals of philosophy and have the necessary historic context knowledge to form opinions.

Hell, at some point they would have to learn latin or hebrew just to not have their arguments ignored instantly.

Meanwhile these people make fun of college philosophy lectures and only know history about WW2 and how germany could have "won" according to that one 4chan user.

If they heard anyone speaking hebrew they would call the police because "it sounded Arab."

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago
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[-] i_stole_ur_taco@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

Well, I can’t remember exactly where but I know it’s in there somewhere.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 months ago

There were 2 big things that cover 90% of things Jesus said in the Bible.

  1. love people. Full stop. Yes, them too.
  2. don't listen to hypocrites that make up religious rules and tell you you have to obey them.
[-] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

The other 10% includes Jesus declaring that you can’t conduct trade in a temple, and beating merchants with a whip.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

I ain't Christian but I will happily do the Christlike act of beating a priest with a whip.

Also something I want to note Jesus made the whip meaning that wasn't just rage that was true fury that made him dedicate a day towards crafting his instrument of retribution. Which is just metal.

[-] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

When you're so furious you go home and craft for entire day, sleep, wake up and you're still mad enough to whip ass.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 4 points 5 months ago

I mean there is shit like Deuternonom 23, 1

“No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord."

Maybe just don't give a shit about some non-sensical book some dudes in the desert made up.

[-] BanMe@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

The verse was meant to discourage religious eunichs, as so many verses were just meant to enact a change within a group of people long ago, the entire book of Deuteronomy for instance was telling Jews a specific code to live by, including sanitation and hygiene laws. Good way to encode your culture's safeguards, bad way to ensure their future peace.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah sure, all the uncomfortable verses always mean something different while all the positive verses are true and valid even without context.

[-] procrastitron@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

You're giving transphobic bigots too much credit; no one reads a verse saying that eunuchs aren't allowed in the temple and infers that it's a sin to be trans.

They aren't reading the Bible and then developing prejudices based on what it says; that's not what's happening here.

Instead, what they are doing is starting with the prejudices they already have and then fishing through the Bible trying to find anything that even remotely matches so they can twist it into a post-hoc justification.

In this specific case, that verse doesn't justify their position in any way shape or form.

The only reason anyone would interpret that as condemnation of trans people is if they're actively looking for excuses to condemn them.

First off, that verse is talking about eunuchs rather than trans people, which is actually a really important distinction.

Further, that verse doesn't even say that being a eunuch is bad; it just says they're not allowed to enter the temple. which, for what it's worth, hasn't even existed for thousands of years.

Moreover, it is immediately followed by a verse saying the same thing about anyone whose ancestors (up to 10 generations back) were illegitimate children.

So, you can't interpret it as saying that it's a sin to be trans unless you also interpret it as saying it's a sin to have great-great-great grandparents who weren't married.

You're right that neither the Bible nor any other religious text is a legitimate reason to persecute people, but that's not what's going on here.

They aren't motivated by what the Bible teaches, they're motivated by bigotry and performing mental acrobatics to try to find anything in the Bible that they can somehow twist into an excuse for their bigotry.

Didn’t Jesus say he was the new covenant therefore ignore all the ancient laws and follow Jesus? Jesus himself is unworthy if you follow the Old Testament

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[-] Signtist@bookwyr.me 2 points 5 months ago

Meanwhile I'm here struggling to remember when exactly Christians cared about what Jesus told them to do.

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Broad strokes... I know plenty of people who are Christians who attend church and hold very progressive views. I'm sorry that your experience with believers has been so poor. Please do try to remember that nobody talks about the person who isn't bothering anyone with their beliefs.

[-] BroBot9000@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

No those people just are friends and enabling the pedos of their local church. You are the people you associate with and the church is the biggest pedo organization on the planet.

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[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

They enable the ones who do cause problems.

Helping others do harm but not physically doing it yourself does not absolve you of responsibility.

[-] Jyek@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Once again, you are painting with broad strokes. If a bad apple spoils the bunch then all of humanity is bad apples. A Christian following the teachings of Jesus in Scripture over the cultural American WASP perception of what those teachings are, does not necessarily enable those WASPs to do harm.

[-] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago

Many of them do speak out against and actively oppose those who use religion as an excuse for bigotry.

Then some idiot responds with "No True Scotsman" and thinks they made a brilliant retort against someone who you would think they would be on the same side as.

[-] 100_kg_90_de_belin@feddit.it 1 points 5 months ago

Jesus said nothing about people transitioning and gender, but IIRC early and medieval Christian scholars condemned bodily modifications because the body was God's creation and property and it ought to be kept intact for resurrection.

[-] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

So the magaTs are now anti modification but still completely fine with mutilating young males with circumcisions. Yeah, checks out for more insanity form the cult.

[-] shneancy@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

i do wonder why trans children are their main target when the plastic surgery industry has many more people to bully

[-] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 1 points 5 months ago

The one thing brain worms McGee could have done and gotten a nod from me, and he fucked it up by throwing autism in there! Seriously though, I'm so glad my mom is as bull headed as she is and told the hospital staff to fuck off when they were pushing for that shit.

Like why is a cereal manufacturer still having us mutilate newborns?

[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

To be fair, as long as they don't crossdress, don't have gay sex and don't undergo genital surgery, they should be in the clear.

So as a trans person you're allowed to... change your name and pronouns? I think that's it, as far as the Bible goes.

[-] kofe@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Nope, changing pronouns is compelling speech according to evangelical extremists. Oh and changing your name should only apply to last name's of women and young girls getting married, cuz we gotta keep in mind however many states still allow child marriage.

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