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submitted 1 month ago by flork@lemy.lol to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

I recently asked the /c/Android community what information Google has access to on stock Android, assuming the user is not using any Google apps, and was told Google has full "unstoppable" access to the entire device, including Signal messages, the microphone, duckduckgo search history and anything displayed on the screen at all times.

Does this mean that encrypted messaging is essentially pointless to use on Android? I'm a newb here so go easy on me.

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[-] Kirk@startrek.website 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

End-to-end encrypted messaging protects against eavesdroppers in transit.

But if the ENDS are both compromised... I wish there were more/better custom ROMS out there. Hopefully Linux Phone gets some love.

[-] who@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But if the ENDS are both compromised…

If either end is compromised, then there is someone reading over the proverbial shoulder, and the conversation should be considered compromised.

Hopefully Linux Phone gets some love.

That would be a welcome step in the right direction, as would open hardware.

[-] tehmics@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Do you have an issue with graphene?

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

Me personally I don't have a Pixel but I looked into Graphene and I'm told banking apps don't work and also tap to pay.

Linux works on pretty much every PC ever and every app can be installed. It would be nice to have that for phones!

[-] pmk@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago

My banking apps just work(tm) without any work or fiddling. (Sweden) You can have a separate space for apps that need google play and all that and it has no access to your private data.

[-] Kirk@startrek.website 1 points 1 month ago

Oh that's great to know!

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