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Trump might not 'fall', but Reagan's myth of America being that 'shining city on a hill' has fallen in its place. It has absolutely been exposed as complete bullshit. The same is true with regard to the likes of Musk Bezos Zuckerberg Wall Street et al, remaining at large and thriving but at the expense of a belief in capitalism.
It is hard to overcome childhood programming so it takes a while for citizens to realise. I spent a couple of months in Russia quite a while ago. I remember being told "We know our society is corrupt, you don't know yours is." The person that told me that was right.
I'm a Brit, the same thing has and is happening here in more or less the same way and starting at a similar time: with Thatcher's 80's policies that amounted to the last looting of empire, looting the remaining profitable bits of the British state itself on behalf of capital. American capital did the same thing but on a much steeper curve. We obviously display various cultural differences in response to this economic/political policy.
We even have completely credible evidence of a paedophile ring based in Westminster in the 80s that has been thoroughly brushed under the carpet. Not one mp went to Grenfell when that tower burned and children died due to avoidable issues, but they all trouped out to mourn when big ben had to be covered up for a bit due to refurbishment.
Add the abject failure of fossil-fuel-powered-[neo-liberal]-capitalism to deal with what could easily become the existential threat of climate change, and things get pretty depressing. I'm not sure when or where (as a species) we managed a fair and equitable society post-agriculture and writing. Maybe Aboriginals, or South Sea Islanders, or some of tribal Africa somewhere.
From what I've heard from folks outside the US, we're way past the point of not being the shinning city on the hill. The only thing I see is that if and when the emails come out to public, the US will be so marginalized by the rest of the world that doing business with them will almost be the equivalent as doing business with North Korea (not counting trade embargos), that people will not really care as much anymore. And even if you where in the US you'd be more interested in just surviving the day than caring about the already known pedo in chief running the whitehouse will all his clouns and billionaires. The only thing that could give me joy is that if thefiles come out, the rest of the world powers could make trade embargos with the US and any billionaire that has financial or political ties with the US (specially including tech companies) so those billionaires would either jump ship and line up with the tax laws of the rest of the world or sink with the rest of the us economy.
Heavy rant over
Wow you really were gonna get that out regardless of the post topic, weren't you?
Let them cook
It was a perfectly reasonable response.
Maybe you haven't noticed, but when a person does not like facts that match the reality they have (co-)constructed they must reject the fact. When they can't do that they seek to diminish the fact by attacking the messenger.
This is what you have done here. It is boring and predictable.
It's it now?
Can you honestly even claim you answered the question? You didn't even do a complete sentence on the topic before shifting into a diatribe against capitalism.