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[-] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 45 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I don't mean to sound insensitive, as I totally support UBI and universal healthcare and removing corporate profit motives from anything related to individual, collective, or environmental well-being.

But this ADHD persecution complex can sometimes get out of hand. Could Katie really not ask a family member or close friend for help with this?

Again, not trying to downplay the bureaucratic nonsense or unfairness here. I'm just saying this paints the task as impossible when maybe it's not.

EDIT: Thanks everyone for your replies. My partner struggles with ADHD and navigating medical bureaucracy, so I understand somewhat but I'm always learning.

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 50 points 3 months ago

It's the level of hoops an ADHD person needs to jump through to get any treatment, let alone adequate treatment. Forms, calling for appointments, more forms, tracking stuff, nagging your doctor to full prescriptions, and so on. Every step of which is another wall to climb for an ADHD person.

Everything about the process to get both diagnosed and treated involves tasks that are not compatible with the ADHD brain.

[-] T156@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Or stuff that is really difficult to get. Part of the diagnostic process for my psychiatrist needs me to arrange a 30 minute interview with a family member (which only works if you have a family member who is willing to do so, believes that ADHD isn't just a personal failing, or has the time to arrange such a thing), or reports from primary school, which most people aren't likely to keep around when they're an adult in university.

If you don't have either of those, no diagnosis for you, and you're out several hundred dollars for nothing.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 5 points 3 months ago

My father straight up lied to the psychiatrist and ruined my chances forever. I wanted my mother to go, but she was busy.

Good luck getting diagnosed in Serbia, and then it's only a liability, since people will believe you are making up reasons, and faking it.

[-] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 35 points 3 months ago

As someone with a family who absolutely doesn't give a single shit about the difficulty of living with ADHD and just tells me to "get over it and stop being so lazy"... yes, they most likely didn't have anyone willing to lend a hand and help them in the way they needed help because regular people don't tend to think of the things we struggle with as being challenging enough to warrant needing assistance with.

Having a supportive community is a privilege that so many take for granted.

[-] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 17 points 3 months ago

That's a very good point and I should have considered it. Appreciated.

[-] myfunnyaccountname@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 months ago

I’ve been diagnosed with adhd. I’ve had multiple doctors completely ignore it. Just nothing. It’s still untreated. This is mental health is America.

[-] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 6 points 3 months ago

Yeah, my partner has it too and says the exact same thing. Sorry bud :( Keep telling people, more folks need to know that's how it is.

[-] DokPsy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

You pretty much have to go out of your way to a place that specializes in it to actually be taken seriously

[-] Psythik@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

As someone with ADHD, finding the energy to ask someone for help can be just as difficult as sucking it up and just filling out the form. That's the problem with ADHD: your brain physically stops your body from getting up and doing the things it needs to do.

Personally I need to be high as fuck on stimulants to accomplish anything, which sucks ass cause I really hate how they make me feel. But I can't accomplish shit unless I'm absolutely tweaking off my ass on Adderall like a fucking meth addict.

[-] smeenz@lemmy.nz 13 points 3 months ago

You're assuming they have someone supportive in their life.

[-] CatoPosting@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

I had a friend trying to get disability for a laundry list of problems that left her unable to do much, and the judge ruled against her with an example job of folding sheets and towels at a hotel. No hotel we could find employed a person to do that job alone, nor am I convinced she or anyone could do that job for 8 hours at a time, but still it was enough to get her case dismissed.

However, it did start a paper trail that helped her win disability several years later in a more progressive district. She now lives in a 6 person polycule, 5 of whom are disabled.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 3 months ago

Ok, the last part is wtf. Personal choices man, not related

[-] CatoPosting@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago

Just sharing the eventual happy ending to a sad story.

[-] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 3 months ago

I mean yeah, suppose theh are all happy, very good for them.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 10 points 3 months ago

Went through diag with husband last year. The paperwork they got me to fill out out was pretty basic, but detailed, and if he had the familial network to recognise and support his condition, he wouldn't have gotten diagnosed in his 40's.

[-] NeelixBiederman@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

In the context of a trillion dollar annual military budget with things like $10,000 screws, the idea that entitlements must be means tested to ensure nobody "undeserving" actually gets them demonstrates what this country actually values: the public coffers exist to line the pockets of capitalists at the expense of the public

[-] Deconceptualist@leminal.space 3 points 3 months ago

No dispute from me there. The system is immensely fucked and it might take a long, long time to fix. But the reality here and now is that getting pretty much any kind of service requires paperwork and callbacks and all the other BS.

[-] NeelixBiederman@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago
[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Could Katie really not ask a family member or close friend for help with this?

If she gets to it or even knows about it.

No, seriously, that's a real problem with mental dysfunctional disorders. There are lot's of institutions/help groups (at least here) that are happy to help. But you don't know what you should know.

[-] burrito@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago

And people with ADHD will procrastinate getting help even though they may want it. A person who is finally getting seen will often say something like "I've been meaning to do this for years". ADHD just be like that.

[-] DokPsy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Also time blindness. A simple "wow, this is a lot all at once. I'll get to this when I can devote time to focus on it" turns into "I meant to do this a year ago!" real quick.

Had to go off meds cause couldn't get them. Went back to the same place later thinking it was a couple months. It was 2 years.

[-] stickly@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I think reinforced digital isolation is a big part of the problem. This is something that could be solved by calling the service phone number or asking at the library or a help group, a doctor's office etc... It might be extra hoops to jump through but there's not any physical or communication barrier completely blocking her. Instead she clicks a button and gets a form and automatically feels completely helpless.

A 20 page form should take like ~30-45 minutes with help, it's not a huge ask and doesn't require as strong of a support network as some people in this thread are claiming. She's got a phone and can read and talk, the only thing that could lower this hurdle further is support information being stapled to the front of the form.

Now it's a different issue once the bureaucracy requires multiple followups, workday visits, transportation for evaluation, etc...

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