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At least this means that the Niger coup really was unlikely to have been orchestrated by the US like some were speculating, unless it’s just a case of the intelligence apparatus neglecting to inform the state department of its current machinations…
Edit: to clarify, those speculations already had problems and this makes it even more unlikely
Mainstream media was seething when it happened, made it pretty obvious imo.
That was definitely part of the criticism of those speculations, although tbh I havent really noticed the mainstream media talking about the situation in Niger like… at all.
We need a french comrade to inform us on this lol.
yeah I guess I should specify "mainstream media specifically intended for English-speaking audiences" whenever I say "mainstream media" during discussions lol
It's been consistently described as a coup since, too. Compare that to Ukraine's coup.
Yup exactly. It's a coup when they are against it, it's a popular uprising when they promote it.
I knew it wasnt because they where telling france to take a hike and allying with BF, a ML state.
Also y'know, wagner helping them out. I dont see washington allying with wagner to squash french infulence in the region.
BF isnt ML? Also, I dont think you saw my most recent comment, the speculation was that if this newest government was helped along by the US they would kick the French out to harm their energy independence through the lack of extremely cheap uranium and would have to turn to the US (like they did to Germany by blowing up the Nordstream). There were already problems with this theory (and I think the presence of Wagner was one of them?), and I think this is further evidence that’s not a correct theory
It is, the new commander who took over in a coup is a turbo-commie interested in reviving Sankaras legacy, hes pretty based.
https://hoodcommunist.org/2023/03/02/the-homeland-or-death-accomplishments-of-the-traore-government-in-burkina-faso/amp/
Its hard to argue this is the way the US would have wanted it to go, Niger coming closer to forming a communist/socialist bloc with BF & Angola and the wider BRICS community.
That’s the PM, Tambelá, comrade, not the president (who truly wields power), Traroré. Now, it’s a good sign that he’s at least not an anticommunist because he was willing to give a position in government to a ML like Tambelá, but as far as actually being a ML he hasn’t shown any other signs of that. It’s far more likely that he just generally wants the west out of the country, and he thinks that appointing a popular person in BF to (from what I can tell) a relatively weak position in government will help ensure the support of the population.
However, this also means Traroré potentially has a dedicated ML whispering in his ear, so I’m optimistic that he could take a turn to being a true Sankarist in his own right in the near future.
Good point, taken it on. I still have high hopes for them though, especially with a potential angola alliance.
Oh? I wasnt aware of anything involving Angola, do you have an article I could read about that?
Not an article to read, they just would be natural allies if they turned into a ML country.
I’m regretfully extremely uninformed about the state of socialism in Africa in the 21st century, I was under the impression Angola is led by like ML grifters who haven’t improved the plight of their workers the entire time they’ve been in power, do you have any reading on Angola as a whole then, or just socialism in Africa in the 21st century?
Angola aint a grift and its based as fuck, one of the richest countrys in africa + they BTFO'd south africa in a war.
Also in terms of reading this films good;
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069214/
Cuba sent them like 50k troops in the 70s when SA tried to invade and the whitoids got slaughtered, hilarious time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_Border_War
I heard Luanda was pretty expensive, a lot of Europeans migrated there during the 2008 crisis.
Yeah ive also heard its quite a high CoL country, but on the flip side they have cultural elements where they open up peoples homes as midway between resturaunt and home cooking, apparently if you walk around people will turn there houses into mini-kitchens and you can just walk in if you see a menu outside and get a home cooked meal.
Nice pictures but sorry this doesn’t mean shit lol, you could take pictures like this in like fucking Dubai and it’s in the UAE, one of the worst countries in the world for proles and minority groups, I’d like some articles or essays (even just a yt vid would be ok for now), not saying you’re wrong but this isn’t making me any more informed.
If you don’t have any don’t worry, just let me know if you don’t so I can make a post on like genzedong or something to see if anyone has anything
It is actually quite representative of the average city in Angola. Its hard to find material on them because they are secretive, its sort of like a NK situation where they wouldnt even allow foriengers to visit till very recently, and even now you still need to be personally approved to travel there.
Feel free to ask zedong though, I just dont know much theory personally outside of the surface level of cuba supporting them and that they expressed interest to join BRICS.
my point more was that it doesn't really matter if the average city looks like this if it's accomplished on the backs of what is essentially slave labor like in the UAE.
And thanks for letting me know! Would you like me to tag you if I get any good responses?
Yeah go ahead!
Eh but installing a government that kicks you and your allies out isnt just causing chaos, it would be actively shooting yourself in the foot. Now, the speculation was that this was to get France off of cheap uranium so they would have to buy more LNG, but I’ve seen good criticisms of that theory, and this seems like more evidence that the US didnt want this coup to happen. Could also be a bad thing, if it doesnt have the backing of the US it means they could easily be a target for our intelligence apparatus to topple in some way or another
Casus belli to invade and have it all for themselves? Idk. If there's one thing the US is good at it's muddying waters.
Fair, but this would be a particularly weak casus belli, plus the media is priming us for war against either China or Mexico, this would be an extremely weird and hard pivot
A war against Mexico?
It’s not on mainstream news as much as china fear mongering, but all the flailing about the border and cartels has a militaristic bent to it, like we will need to invade mexico to get them to control their side of the border and clean up the cartels, although that is normally only explicitly said on the most deranged right wing media outlets, but you still see a bit of a general sentiment trickle up through the rest of the media, especially on fox news
Unfortunately the most deranged US right wing talking points find there way to the center in short time. This fucking shithole country...
exactly my point, if any part of the right wing is pushing for something there is a good chance the rest will follow eventually. Personally I think it just is going to depend on whether those who want war with China in the ruling class beat out those who don't, if they do obviously we have war with China, if they don't I think we pivot to war with Mexico.
I should say it seems most likely that they really really want to go to war against China, but there’s conflict within the ruling class about that (see all the “we have to go to war by 2025!” BS vs the billionaires who still make trips over there to reassure China that everything’s fine), and that they output all the shit about the border and cartels to give themselves a pivot point for another war to distract Americans from their material conditions.
Sorry to spam you, from just 6 months ago
https://twitter.com/EmporiumFred/status/1633149606845636610