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Fuck Excel and Microsoft for tying auto save to OneDrive.
So OneDrive actually saved me a ton of time this year at work. We implemented it at the end of last year, and we had a lot of problems with it at first.
So usually something would go wrong, and it was my job to dig deep and figure out what caused it. But for the first half of this year, I could just say, "I don't know, but I'm pretty sure it's OneDrive," and then I could relax and do something else.
Jesus Christ, people really do love to make a problem out of anything, as long as it has "Microsoft" on the label, eh?
Onedrive has been known to just randomly break programs like razer synapse and plenty of other things, and also reinstalling itself for no reason. A friend had a game running at 20fps and it was a known issue that onedrive caused it. I would prefer to have things autosave without using something that is acting indistinguishable from a virus.
Never heard of that. The only thing I can imagine that might happen here is Synapse dropping off its config files in Documents, the file getting kicked off to the cloud (after a device switch/OS reinstall, by the user or via space-saving logic due to long time of not being used), and then Synapse trying to interact with the placeholder file. Literally nothing else could affect it.
Also, using any Razer software as an argument against other software is... brave.
Would love to read more about it because it sounds completely ridiculous. Unless the game constantly overwrites files in OneDrive sync'd folders, which would trigger a non-stop sync, I guess?
This sentence goes super hard if you have no clue what a virus is.
My mistake ill go tell my friend he's just not allowed to use his mouse because a commentor on lemmy said it's not his computer so he can't run what he wants on it, especially not the OEM software that his mouse requires.
Onedrive seems to sync documents by default, which means any games that write log files there will be constantly syncing any time they append a little to the end of the file.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/m8luww/pause_one_drive_sync_while_you_play_it_completely/
True sorry I meant malware, it tries to reinstall itself and tries to make uninstalling more difficult, while also being a massive cpu hog while the user is unaware (and hasn't opened it once).
https://windowsreport.com/onedrive-high-cpu/
Ah even better it breaks itself because of telemetry logs and then takes up massive amounts of cpu in order to do nothing because it's in a broken state. Search onedrive high cpu usage to see how common this is, happened to me too (never opened it one time). Great software that I have had to remove from 5 different people's computers because it was either in a broken state or they played a game that was massively slowed down by a program they had not installed, didn't even know was installed, and they had not opened or used ever. Lucky them they got to experience it twice after onedrive reinstalled itself after an update!
My point is that Razer is famous for designing crap quality software. It's probably nothing related to OneDrive, just Synapse being Synapse.
Games shouldn't be writing constantly to Documents. That's what temp/cache is for.
I'd love to see some tests done on this. A lot of the people complaining about Windows issues are the same people who used various "debloaters", and these cause so many unintended issues.
Sure razer programs are super sketchy, but a convenience program I never installed should not touch ANYTHING unless I tell it to. The issue isn't "oh razer is bad so it was probably onedrive doing something correctly and then it broke" it's "why did I have to waste time figuring out some random program I never installed and don't want was causing this problem?"
They are writing constantly to documents because it makes it obvious to the user where the logs are, why do you get to decide they don't get to write there? For example openmw a huge project puts logs there. Again it's the fact it's a program I never installed and don't want that I had to spend hours researching to maybe find out what was causing it.
An example of it being really buggy to get rid of
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/3998214/one-drive-keeps-recreating-itself
Reinstalling itself
https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadmin/comments/brai09/onedrive_keeps_reinstalling_itself/
About performance idk what to tell you this seems very common
https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/5i46aj/onedrive_is_always_checking_for_changes_and/
https://www.reddit.com/r/onedrive/comments/oiix8t/high_cpu_and_ram_without_syncing_file_what_happen/
Tons of videos on YouTube about it too.
I shouldn't have to say, for a software I never installed or wanted, "well okay I'm not allowed to append to logs to documents, or use documents for any game files that might change often, and if I'm unlucky to have onedrive be in a bugged state or they break it with an update then I will have 30% cpu usage forever unless I fix it. And also I will have to uninstall it every 6 months which might leave my file explorer in a broken state." If this happened with a software I WANTED and installed myself, I would still complain but probably say the convenience is worth it. But it is being forced on me and the literal only reason I know about it is from it giving me 50% cpu usage and other friends having similar problems, for something they don't want and never wanted.
That's not the point I was making.
It was: OneDrive, normally, doesn't cause any such issues. The fact that these issues exist with specifically Synapse is more probably due to Synapse being shite, than OneDrive doing anything.
Because Documents is the user's documents space. Temp files go in Temp, application data goes in AppData. It's a super simple system that worked on Windows for the past 20 years. Razer doing things wrong is a problem with Razer's products, not Microsoft's.
Then the devs of openmw should be flogged too. Everybody should fuck off from the Documents folder, because it turns into another Temp/AppData with all the crap that I didn't put there. It's My Documents, not "trash bin for lazy devs".
I won't argue against it reinstalling itself as I never had a problem with it just chugging along and giving me the 5GB of free backup space.
I won't comment on the performance hits, because I never experienced those. I'm willing to bet the fault is on either the user or the software their using, though, because I haven't seen a performance hit on any of my 2000-3000 managed devices. Sure, OneDrive for Business uses SharePoint, but the app works in a similar way.
I won't comment on your last paragraph too, because it just reiterates that you missed my initial point.
My documents has been the standard location for game saves for probably 20 years. You can say it shouldn't be and you might even be right, but that's the reality and Microsoft KNOWS that's the reality. If appdata is really supposed to be for things like game logs, configuration and saves, can you explain to me why it's hidden by default? How is the average person supposed to copy saves? Back them up? Edit their configuration settings? This is exactly why my documents became the default.
I personally have un-installed onedrive and had it break my file browser such that the onedrive button was still there and any time I accidentally clicked it the file browser froze. I don't think you can chalk up every instance of onedrive slowing down a pc to user error, maybe some other software doing something unexpected + some user error. But again, many people are having issues caused by a software they never wanted. I should be able to be the worst dev ever and do whatever "incorrect" things I want, regardless of what a software I never installed and can't get rid of thinks.
It's also just unexpected behavior, you're telling me just writing to my documents will lag my pc? What if I'm transferring files to my documents while doing something else, now I get massive lag spikes for the crime of putting files somewhere on my computer...? And what if it's pictures I absolutely do not want on Microsoft servers, like medical photos? Am I just required to know Microsoft put software that uploads it without me ever consenting?
Microsoft has NOTHING to do with where a developer decides his application will shit its data.
Because none of that is important for the user, unless they're troubleshooting. And if they're troubleshooting, they either know where to look already, or they're googling to find out anyway.
Again, "My Saves", and we're not talking about saves.
Don't know when you did that, but there was a time where OneDrive was "hard-coded" into Windows installations and brute-force killing it could break things. Which is why you didn't remove it fully, you just disabled it back then (log out, exit app, check if it's removed from Startup Applications, job done).
Nowadays you can uninstall it easily.
Do you remember some 1-2 years ago when "debloating" was super popular? Like, every thread on r/Windows about new installations would have people shouting about the need to "debloat" by the use of some script from the Internet?
Do you also remember how that community didn't have a week without a couple "Windows Search is broken!!!!11" threads? You ever notice how the fad for "debloating" died down, these threads also disappeared?
So, yeah, I can absolutely attribute a bunch of obscure issues that were never acknowledged by MS to user error or "malicious" software.
Yeah, that's not how computers work.
No.
Or rather: "no, it's not supposed to".
I don't know what logs does Synapse, or whatever similar app, drop in the Documents folder. If it's thousands of operations per minute, there's possibly a chance that OneDrive would trip over and die over this. But having thousands of operations per minute saved in logs, in Documents, is just retarded design in the first place.
Let me put it this way: I develop relatively large scripts for work. I have them all in my OneDrive folder. I will also often unzip software packages into a OneDrive-synced folder. Thousands of files getting dropped out of an archive. I have never had any PC performance issues caused by OneDrive during that time.
Don't put them in a synced folder...?
Yes, you should know what you're doing on your computer. When you first open it, OneDrive tells you what the Status icons mean, so you should understand which folder is synced and which isn't.
You logging in to OneDrive gave it consent to do the things it's designed to do. If you're fresh-installing Windows and use an MS account, you either get information about OneDrive during OOBE, or you get pop-ups about OneDrive after the installation is completed. Unless you just blindly close anything that isn't your Desktop, you are fully informed to the capabilities of your PC in terms of what OneDrive does and where it does it.
I have never even heard of the my saves filder and can't find anything about it from searching, do you mean Documents/My Games? And yes we are not talking about saves, we're also talking about config files and potential mods and potential screenshots. Some devs also put logs next to saves in case a game crashed or misbehaved, especially in the case of moddable games. Even non-technical people can read a log and see file not found. I did this when I was 7 years old and had no clue about hidden files or appdata or even how to GET to the C drive, because games just wrote to documents or I would never find anything.
Yes and I also have nothing to do with someone turning their car into my lane, but I'm not going to smash into them and say well I was in the right. Microsoft may be fully justified in thinking nothing is in there besides documents that someone actually wants backed up, and they can be fully justified as every user has their games break. Do you know why people blame onedrive and not the game? Because they actually wanted the game.
Config files and mod files are unimportant to the user...? And again troubleshooting as a non-poweruser is still possible if the log says "file not found."
Yes I disabled it when it was hard coded and I sure wish it was job done. It kept running the service even though I had disabled it and then on a later update fully re enabled itself, so my choices are be really confused and have games be broken until I figure out onedrive is back or fully delete it and have a broken file manager.
What you said about opening onedrive is just not accurate, when you first install windows you get a tiny pop-up that says something along the lines of "keep all your files synced in one place!" And I as well as most people click the x. So I was actually just supposed to know that meant "we are actually syncing your folders unless you specifically say not to."
I'm sure onedrive is perfectly fine for work applications, but for anyone that plays any games ever I have told them always uninstall or disable onedrive ASAP. I had actually forgotten that it can lock your documents folder and break games (and I believe other programs too) https://www.reddit.com/r/Sims3/comments/y1mhf8/psa_if_you_arent_able_to_save_on_windows_11_22h2/
There used to be a "Saved Games" (or some such, can't remember off the top of my head) folder in your user folder (e.g.
C:\Users\starelfsc2\Saved Games). If it's no longer there, presumably, MS removed it since practically nobody ever used it. I think it came first with Vista.That goes in
%programdata%.Inside the game's installation folder.
That's what the Pictures folder is for..
I wouldn't mind these showing up in the My Games/Saved Games folder, honestly.
Non-technical people who don't know how to find
%programdata%won't know what to do with a.logfile. They'd need to google that anyway, and in doing so, would learn about Program Data.Of course. You should expect them to NOT drive in your lane.
What you are suggesting instead is that the city council builds another lane just in case someone starts driving on the wrong side of the road.
Mate, I don't know what to tell you. When I was still running Windows on my gaming PC, I had OneDrive enabled. My brother has OneDrive enabled. My wife has OneDrive enabled. Some 90% of my friends and acquaintances have OneDrive enabled. We game a lot, and I mean A LOT. I currently have just shy of 1TB of games installed.
NEVER had I experienced ANY issues with ANY software, games or otherwise, that would be caused by OneDrive just doing its thing.
So, considering this anecdotal evidence, and putting it against the "Reddit threads" of "OneDrive broke something", AND against those where "Search doesn't work!" after a dude broke his Windows with a script he found online - I'm leaning towards the opinion that if someone is having issues with OneDrive, they caused them themselves, somehow.
To the VAST majority of users? Yes, they are. I can't remember the last time I had to fiddle with a config file... 2008? Maybe 2010? As for mods - if you're modding a game, you can spend all of 30 seconds extra to learn where Program Data lives.
See above.
Yeah, I'm calling bullshit on this one. But I already explained that above.
That's what I'm trying to explain: it SHOULD NOT. If it DOES, then something is broken on your end - either with the software (OS/services/something) or the hardware.
Umm,
/boot? What's that? That's not a Windows thing.What are you trying to argue here now? "Microsoft bad" or something more specific?
And that's, somehow, Microsoft's fault.........?
No, you doughnut, you were supposed to click the notification and learn about OneDrive!
Skill issue.
That's because it can't, unless you break something.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Sims3/comments/y1mhf8/comment/ism2uwm/
Also: my wife was just recently playing Sims3 on Windows 11 and OneDrive on with zero issues.
I mean... Dude, just try. Do a fresh install. Don't run any scripts, don't run any CCleaners or such, don't edit any registry settings, don't install any WinAeroTweaks or such. Just fresh install, log in to where you need to log in (including OneDrive, for the test), install some games and test it out. I guarantee that - barring hardware issues - you'll have a smooth ride.
when you are a computer toucher, adding an extra three or four touches every time you want to save is frustrating.
What?
If you're using OneDrive, 99% of the time you want your documents to be saved there anyway, so this saves you time.
If you're not using OneDrive, this doesn't affect you at all.
If you're using OneDrive but, for whatever reason, don't want Word to save files there by default, it takes some 5 clicks to go back to the previous default.
People are behaving like Microsoft is sending death squads to get all their documents, it's just stupid.
And people are correct to do so.
They're not.
If you’re using OneDrive, 99% of the time you want your documents to be saved there anyway.
If you’re not using OneDrive, this doesn’t affect you at all.
If you’re using OneDrive but, for whatever reason, don’t want Word to save files there by default, it takes some 5 clicks to go back to the previous default.
I can understand the Microsoft hate, but I always chuckle at this knee-jerk reaction every time it comes up.
*Microsoft is mentioned, karate-chops the air*
Right? It's insane!
Like with the ROG Ally. People who don't have it call it the worst shit ever because it runs Windows. People who do have it call it amazing, because the UI is done great, the games run smooth, etc. Like, there's zero issues with the device, it's great for gaming, but because Microsoft is involved, so many people just want to drop it in the gutter...
I swear, if Microsoft just randomly decided that every Windows user gets one million dollars, no strings attached, people would complain...
True true
I use it, I even pay for it. But Holy fuck it's bad! It makes explorer freeze when right clicking sometimes, moving files is slow, I can't create a new folder and name it at the same time because it interrupts the process, so I create new folder, it takes over, then I have to manually rename it from new folder.
Its picture viewer in the Web app freezes half of the time, actually, on the android app too.
If I didn't get such a good deal for it, I would go somewhere else. It's fucking trash.
That's just the beauty of the new context menu. OneDrive or not, it just freezes sometimes.
Huh? Moving files happens locally, on your drive.
That's true, this bit is infuriating.
I'm still on Win10 and in general the context menu loads reasonably fast for me.
But even in WinXP if you had broken registry values it would cause the context menu to load really slowly.
Yeah, when I move files locally, on the same volume. It's real fun watching my Explorer hang when moving files, I have a few hundred thousand files in OneDrive and however they're indexing and tracking them is pretty fucked. And no, it's not the disks.
I'm so done with Microsoft.
I gotta be honest, man - it seems like something's fucked with your OS.
Moving files locally has nothing to do with OneDrive. Once you move the files within a OneDrive-synced folder, the service will just update their location info and re-sync them. It doesn't "desync -> move -> sync", it's literally a local move.
Have you tried moving similar amounts of data in non-synced folders?
Yup, only happens in folders that are synced, I actually reinstalled Windows specifically because of the issues I was seeing.
I don't know what exactly it's doing but it annoys the shit out of me. I should probably use process Explorer or something to check what is going on but I'm too lazy.
I moved some pictures a little earlier and it did it again.
Did you run any "debloaters" or such after the reinstall?
Nuh, I just use Enterprise and disable the shit I don't need.
Ill probably just move to Arch tbh.
If you never used Linux before, Arch can be difficult. As with all Linux, many things randomly just break for no reason at all, but with Arch YOU can break a lot more too. Then there's the AUR package repository which has been breached and infected with viruses a couple of times recently.
Still, if you use your PC for games, I can very much recommend Garuda Linux, which is based on Arch (meaning: the entirety of the phenomenal Arch Wiki will be helpful), but has a couple of tricks, like the Rani app, which help with the day-to-day maintenance of the OS massively. I'm using it and it's pretty good, although you may need to tweak a bunch of things first.
I'm sys eng/devops/whatever marketing terminology they decide to use, so I'm okay with running Linux, it's more annoying that I'll have to probably dual boot to be able to use the Autodesk applications I use.
But thank you for the suggestion, I'll give it a look.