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submitted 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) by Dort_Owl@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

The Soviets managed to get a probe to Venus like 70 years ago btw

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[-] SamanthaTemp@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Yeah but not without failures or trial and error. Do you think the Soviets just launched the one rocket they made for that mission and all was well? It was decades upon decades of research, trials, and years of experience that went into their space technology. Failure to launch is a much more common occurrence in rocket science than you’d expect there’s so many variables and criteria that has to go right before a launch is a successful one. It’s not just “I build rocket and it reaches space” that’s a very obtuse way of understanding how they work. It’s the reason there’s weeks to sometimes up to months of delays.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Funny that Worlds Smartest Man Elon Musk can't just learn lessons from what the Soviets did before he was even born. It's a good sign of intelligence when someone can't even learn from what others have done in the past.

[-] SamanthaTemp@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Spacex isn’t Elon this is literally great man theory

[-] SamanthaTemp@hexbear.net 0 points 3 months ago

Also you’ll be surprised how many of the engineers love the Soviets who also work at the company. I don’t know if you’re doing a bit but the space community is different there’s an actual sense of solidarity with one another and they take pride in any human achievement in space travel and unlike the US manufactured “space race” and whoever “won” they would all say humans first but Soviets second. So yeah don’t talk out your ass

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

And yet they're also going along with decisions like launching the rockets without safety measures that have been standard for years, resulting in property damage and harm to sensitive wildlife habitat in addition to reducing their own chances of launching successfully due to flying debris. Great that some of them have their hearts in the right place but they're still going along with whatever Elon says he wants and they appear perfectly willing to cut the corners he wants cut.

[-] SamanthaTemp@hexbear.net 0 points 3 months ago

Every space agency creates pollution and is bad for the environment but they’re all making a compromise, you shouldn’t stay ignorant to this fact. And I’m not giving them the benefit of doubt but I think it’s unfair to use this point to criticize one company when all the space agencies are contributors to the issue.

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

I'm saying that SpaceX is not following standards that the other space agencies have established and are adhering to, so yes it does make sense to criticize them in particular.

[-] SamanthaTemp@hexbear.net 0 points 3 months ago

I can’t tell if you’re doing a bit or so naive to think that any space agency adheres to any of these alleged “standards.” You can create standards but you don’t have to follow them, look at OSHA…

[-] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Find me a news article where a NASA rocket launch blew out windows in a nearby retirement community or how their repeated launch failures are strewing debris as far as the Barbados.

[-] SamanthaTemp@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

Find me news articles where you don’t smell bad

[-] Dort_Owl@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, but back then they were trying to do something that had never been done before with far more primitive technology. SpaceX is failing at stuff like this would have been understandable at the dawn of the space race, but it's 2025 and they're not trying to trying to probe a distant planet.

Not the engineers faults, obviously, but they're hampered by a private company doing stupid private company shit. Run by a dude who has a track record of giving his employees stupid mandates.

[-] SamanthaTemp@hexbear.net 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I feel like you’re conflating Musks “goals” (occupy mars cringe) with the overall purpose of spacex. Just because Musk who literally only just purchased the company makes these out their promises he only does so to boost stock price for the company, but this doesn’t mean these are their main objectives. Spacex is literally a business with the sole purpose of selling boosters to countries with space programs like NASA. You should condemn the US government for not prioritizing space science in any capacity, but science = war and when you have Lockheed already hiring NASA facilities and scientists/ engineers to build war machines then there’s no incentive to really care about the science part.

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