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Incidentally, I've been saying that Russia would annex the productive eastern regions, leaving a rump state in western Ukraine that Europe would be forced to prop up with billions, or face a massive refugee crisis from the very start. The mainstream press has finally caught up. https://lemmygrad.ml/post/480378/348104

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[-] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 day ago

They thought they could make it a black hole for Russia. Russia played the Uno Reverse Card.

[-] Lenins_Dumbbell@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 20 hours ago

They didn't underestimate Russia, they VASTLY underestimated the Soviet Union. Russia is an industrial powerhouse because it inherited Soviet Union's legacy.

Europe failed to account for the fact that since their first defeat of Tsarist Russia, a socialist revolution happened that turned the country into a powerhouse that was on the path to surpassing the US. Even though it fell, a lot of its industries, workforce due to policy, and educational institutions remained and were inherited (even if they're slowly being devoured by capitalism). Russia was never going to go down easy.

All this without factoring in China which is now the leading global super power in everything but military bases around the world

[-] demerit@lemmygrad.ml 8 points 16 hours ago

Tsarist Russia, despite its later economical backwardness, was also a power in its own right. Germany fought WW1 because it feared Russia surpassing it, just as UK fought WW1 because the very same year germany's economy surpassed the british one (not including the dominions)

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