I’m posting hard against liking Mamdani so when the moment is ripe I can have receipts to prove that I’ve always been team “I told you so” (hexbear.net)

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Gotta be right about everything 100% of the time

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[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

Almost no one "uncritically" supports anything. I have seen posts defending Mamdani when he's criticized for certain choices and I have seen posts with frankly unrealistic views of what Mamdani is (which is, in practice, a social democrat). It's mostly died down in the last few weeks because people made their arguments and then moved on.

All of that is beside the point, because this post isn't actually replying to anything. The implication is that the only reason someone would criticize Mamdani on Hexbear is "Gotta be right about everything 100% of the time". If I'm understanding the tone correctly, I find that to be very uncomradely. It's particularly grating because it reads as a defense of Mamdani by proxy: instead of addressing any actual argument, it writes off all arguments that criticize him as trite smugness.

[+] ghosts@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

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[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

Mamdani stood in front of the sitting president and called him a fascist

He didn't. He made a "hmm" noise and Trump cut him off and called himself a fascist. Mamdani was clearly preparing some kind of diplomatic dodge (not making a judgment on that either way).

That is NOT status quo. Would Bernie have done that? AOC? Any democrat?

Sure, they all say things at times. I'm sure Bernie and AOC called Trump a fascist. Bernie also (eventually) said the US was funding the "Israeli" genocide.

He won't even be inaugurated for a month and even then he'll only be a mayor!

Agreed.

He's fine, he's not going to launch us into a communist revolution, but he's fine. He'll probably try to lower costs in NYC, he's been vocally anti-genocide, he's fine.

Mostly agreed, but he's walked things back enough to make me expect him to be neutered in practice.

Running a "socialist", anti-Israel, affordabilty campaign is apparently more appealing to the public than a corrupt sex pest, let's use it.

True, and also the lesson actual revolutionary parties like the PSL are taking from this. However, this can backfire if people begin to associate "socialism" with walking back and broken promises. How many Bernies can there be before people assume socialists are useless? That's the job of actual socialists, to steal this momentum from social democrats falsely claiming the label.

What I think OP's post is referencing, among other vapid criticisms imo

OP is not referencing anything. OP is stirring up engagement and controversy because OP is an internet troll. Even if OP was referencing that post, I don't care to go digging through 7 layers of irony and smugness to assume someone else's argument. If OP had something to say, OP should have said it.

[-] SamanthaTemp@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

I’ve seen too many posts that criticize Mamdani unfairly to the point of smugness like they’re making the point of if you like him for whatever reason you’re stupid and you “fell for it again.”

Maybe you should stop hanging around this thread like you’re at a bar half hour from closing still looking to get laid.

[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

Maybe you should stop hanging around this thread like you’re at a bar half hour from closing still looking to get laid.

lmao, you cannot possibly post a thread like this and then tell me to touch grass.

[-] SamanthaTemp@hexbear.net 1 points 3 months ago

[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

the joke

What was the joke? Please explain in detail.

[-] SamanthaTemp@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I’m saying you should probably lay off commenting after making 25+ comments on this thread alone. That’s more comments and posts that some users make in a week.

I’m not explaining the joke.

[-] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I’m saying you should probably lay off commenting after making 25+ comments on this thread alone. That’s more comments and posts that some users make in a week.

Don't make a post drenched in irony designed to make people engage, then get mad when they engage.

I’m not explaining the joke.

I don't think there was one. Some people on here are neurodivergent, by the way. I think refusing to explain a joke when asked it extremely bad form, considering that.