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Valve tells Ars its “trying to unblock” limits caused by open source driver issues.

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[-] who@feddit.org 168 points 2 months ago

the HDMI Forum (which manages the official specifications for HDMI standards) has officially blocked any open source implementation of HDMI 2.1.

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 85 points 2 months ago
[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 54 points 2 months ago

And here are those companies making that decision

https://hdmiforum.org/members/

[-] bookmeat@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 2 months ago

You only need to get down the list to broadcom before it becomes obvious this isn't going to change.

[-] blinfabian@feddit.nl 3 points 2 months ago

so pretty much all important companies ☹️

[-] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 18 points 2 months ago

I'm glad more people are hearing how it's this group of standards assholes who are causing it.

[-] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 months ago
[-] sorghum@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago

I really wish displayport on TVs would take off.

[-] undefinedTruth@lemmy.zip 9 points 2 months ago

I really wish I could buy big ass dumb monitor at the cost of a similar size smart tv.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 months ago

Hollywood hates that idea.

[-] zipzoopaboop@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 2 months ago

That's the idea

[-] lengau@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago

I don't know why the Steam Machine doesn't have DisplayPort 2.0 (release June 2019)...

[-] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Probably because it's designed to be attached to TVs, which use hdmi.

[-] lengau@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago
[-] MrSoup@lemmy.zip 0 points 2 months ago

Ouch, tought it didn't have DP at all. My bad

[-] Quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

How, though? I'm not terribly knowledgeable about the law, but I know interoperability is one of the major sources of exceptions to copyright protection, and the whole Google vs Oracle saga would imply there's nothing illegal about making your own implementation of a standard without permission.

[-] freeman@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 months ago

AMD is a member of the HDMI consortium and is probably bound by private agreements to not make open source drivers without permission from the consortium. They did try to get them to budge but they didn't.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Copyright, patent, trademark, and trade secret laws are all entirely different and have almost nothing to do with each other (don't be fooled by the property-rights-hating shysters who try to gaslight you into lumping them all as "intellectual property[sic]").

Trademarks and patents don't have the same kinds of interoperability exceptions that copyright does, and you can't claim to "support HDMI™" without licensing rights to those in addition to whatever copyrighted code you might need for the software side of the implementation.

[-] Decq@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

So what stops them from supporting HDMI™ 2.1 but just not call it that? As long as they create the code in a clean room scenario I don't see how they could be liable for damages? Although I assume it has something to with DRM.. And then you get into the weeds of the terrible cyber security laws...

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