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This is a cool show. I can't help but hate Carol, and I can't figure out if the show is trying to make me hate her or if she really is supposed to be some kind of antihero. It's interesting that we have very little information about what the lives of the other individuals were like before the joining. Carol is very petit bourgeois coded, clearly your archetypical western chauvinist. She's basically monolingual, a fantasy slop mogul, deeply uncurious, self centered, and stubborn. She assumes that everyone else who is unjoined is of the same mind set, and the only other character aligned with her appears to be even more antisocial then she is.

It's hard to say what this show is really about. There was that throw away line in the second or third episode where Carol says she is the "second greatest mass murder next to Stalin" and you could read this so many ways. Yet the show makes it very clear that the world Carol wants to return to is one full of harm and violence. That her resistance to this situation actively kills people

Hopefully this doesn't turn into a show that doesn't know how it ends and keeps running on a treadmill for several sessions.

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[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 17 points 1 week ago

The hivemind can't even pick fruit because of their no harm policy. They're gonna starve out in some years. I'm wondering if this was the plan all along of whoever sent them there to wipe out species of a planet because of zany rules and take the remains.

[-] Lemmyglad@hexbear.net 14 points 1 week ago

Probably another intergalactic landlord.

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

:frieza-shining:

[-] daniyeg@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

my take on it was that the virus likes to spread itself, so some alien race that had been infected were observing humans for some years and decided that in at least 1200 years humans will develop the technology required and decided to send the virus. if they involve aliens in the show it'll be ruined imo so best to leave it unexplained.

[-] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

I'm wondering if this was the plan all along of whoever sent them there to wipe out species of a planet because of zany rules and take the remains.

Doesn't make sense to me. If you can engineer a magic hivemind virus and communicate it over interstellar distances, you can probably find a more straightforward way to kill everyone with the same method. If that's the ploy then the writers are dullards and/or don't respect the audience (either are possible).

Assuming there's more going on than a Rube-Goldberg genocide attempt, it could be that humans are being prepared to join a greater galactic hivemind ahead of the aliens showing up in-person. Either that or humans are being tested somehow, and that it's not an accident that a tiny handful of people ended up not joining. Worst case would be some sort of Lost situation where there's no rational explanation and we just get to be taken for a ride by the writers before they spoonfeed us the answer at the end.

I'm open to giving them the benefit of the doubt, but it would be really, really easy to fumble this thing. If they do, I'm going back to my "wait until the season finishes before watching" policy.

[-] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

I think it's more like a Genestealer cult. The hivemind virus is to prepare potentially inhabitable planets for future colonization. The food thing lowers the existing population to sustainable levels which also makes handover easier and provides the new overlords with an obedient slave population on arrival.

[-] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

That makes enough sense at a glance. Take over an entire planet, population included, without firing a shot or encountering any form of resistance. You even get the benefit of the remaining population maintaining potentially valuable infrastructure and knowledge along the way.

It does feel like there’s more than that going on, imo, but there’s too little information to say what that might be. We’re getting precious few hints considering we’re almost at the end of the season, hopefully the next couple episodes pick up the pace.

[-] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago

We’re getting precious few hints considering we’re almost at the end of the season, hopefully the next couple episodes pick up the pace.

This is going to stretch for multiple seasons lol. We are just at Day 48 right now and no one is equipped to take on the hivemind.

I guess that the hivemind will successfully convert one of the immune ones and it'll start a panic among remaining survivors.

[-] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

For sure we're not at the end-end, I just mean that for this season to land at all there's going to need to be something other than two characters having an elaborate meal together and then remarking on how weird all this is. I like the idea of converting one of the other survivors, that would definitely add some spice to what's going on.

as soon as they said that shit it's like, if it wasn't already obvious this was still a weapon it should be obvious now

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

They caused the biggest mass deaths in human history, them getting upset by carol who has understable human reaction caused millions of deaths. I mean shit they're programmed to be docile and starve to death i-cant

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Also I'm calling the next 'reveal' will be that they can't (won't?) breed/reproduce sexually

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

there's a line during the massages about births having happened since the joining. i forget the day count but i guess that's all pregnancies that were started before it.

i doubt they'd add children of men on top of everything else

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Yes that line stuck out to me as well, from memory the deaths were roughly double the births over the period specified. We do know that starvation is higher because of their aversion to harvesting and crop growing which explains why deaths are high, and it's reasonable to say that the births from are from people who were pregnant before plurbification.

That being said, I cannot see the plurb deliberately choosing to reproduce sexually when they're already in a nutritional crisis.

Who knows. Personally after the latest ep of the show, I'm less interested in the whole scifi mystery side of the show since it's definitely the weakest part of it for me, and will probably just accept any explanation as a reasonable backdrop to the character drama.

[-] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

yeah it certainly doesn't make sense to make more mouths to feed under the circumstances.

i kinda want an episode just about what various plurbs are doing all day in places they're not hanging out with individuals. people still dying "naturally" in accidents raises several questions. what was fence impaled guy doing? why wouldn't the collective do whatever that was in a more safe and efficient manner?

but the next episode is pretty telegraphed to be about Manousos and Carol

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

I have a bad feeling that manou is going to hurt zosia :(

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

But the dude in Vegas is having sex constantly? Or is the reveal going to be that he's actually never had sex with them. They need his stem cells to infect him, can't you get that from many sources, not just bone marrow?

Seems unlikely to me considering how much of a point they make about their biological imperative.

[-] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Cw discussion of childbirth

spoilerThey can have intercourse but I am predicting that with where the plot is going that they will not have it amongst the hive and cannot or will not carry to term.


[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

That last part is very grim and would be more shocking then eating people I think. I think they would carry it to term but they won't reproduce because of the fact that they are starving. That fits right into their no harm policy.

[-] RedWizard@hexbear.net 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

No they sent themselves. That's what the ham radio guy discovered but doesn't know it yet. They have a biological imperative to spread, and so they built a device on the last planet they infected to broadcast their genome sequence in hopes that they ultimately continue to spread and exist somewhere else.

The big reveal will likely be that this virus was engineered by advanced space communists who "never stopped to ask of they should". Engineered with biological rules that "sound good on paper but fail in practice"

The antihero will have to break their biological programing to restore their individualism. In doing so she creates a population that knows everything about everyone and everything but can act and work independently as individuals. Because everyone knows everyone and everything from everyone's perspective, they finally have true empathy for everyone. She'll still be left in isolation, only knowing what she knows and never having this experience herself, but her stubbornness and commitment to individuality will have created world harmony or some shit. She will live out her life with her companion on the new global earth commune.

[-] starkillerfish@hexbear.net 3 points 1 week ago

sounds about right

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