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[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The actual model is just that, a model. It says that our universe can be described the same way as we describe the information systems around an event horizon, and in many cases in physics, if a system can be described using the same model it is often related, connected or the same in some way.

It's not sensationalist, but it's highly misinterpreted and turned into sensationalism.

It doesn't really give us anything meaningful that we can use or understand the universe better just yet, but maybe someday someone will figure out something that helps us better understand where the universe came from. That's all. It's a very convincing theory if you learn about entropy and Planck-scales and event horizons around black holes, but it's not even sensational on its own.

[-] Canconda@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So like I've been vaguely paying attention to them finding larger, farther, and more red-shifted galaxies. I've been suspecting the universe is a black hole for a while now.

What if: information CAN survive the event horizon... but only if it hits the accretion disk from the side at the perfect angle to spiral in. That's why JWST is finding galaxies that are larger, older, and much more common than we'd anticipated -they're extra-universal objects.

What if dark energy is a function of hawking radiation... and the expansion of our universe is driven by primordial black holes? Maybe hawking radiation is the black hole equalizing the same anti-matter/matter asymmetry we've observed in our universe.

I'm sure someone formally educated on the subject can debunk those ideas tho.

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

I'm fairly educated but not formally on the subject.

The idea is this: conservation of information does not break anywhere we've ever observed, and much of physics is based around the immutable "conservations."

This means, whatever happens, whatever billiard ball configuration of particles things are in, you can calculate where they came from and how they got to that position. It's very basic to causality and we've never seen exceptions to it, aggressively so, the universe tends to do funny things just to preserve this kind of law. Except in black holes. All of our understanding about them says that even if they evaporate over vast time scales, there's still no way to "reassemble" the information that comes out, it's a cosmic information laundering service, which breaks a very fundamental conservation.

So, the idea is... what if information is preserved around the "edge" where we see particles slowly fall in and seem to take a literal eternity to fall in? What if that somehow retains all the knowledge of everything that fell in? When you calculate this idea up, you get a sea of information happening at the smallest possible scale, where information gets packed into it's densest possible state. And it also lines up almost exactly with what we imagine the universe to look like when describing it entirely as an information system. What's really happening in this situation is the universe is basically a flat "sheet" of information "bits" that curls around you, you the observer is sitting right into the center of this parabolic "lens" that assembles this information into a 3D picture of the universe. (See: holographic universe principle.) This idea that our observation of the universe is the center of a projection somewhat explains a lot of things like subjective experiences, a lot of quantum weirdness and what's happening at the quantum foam scale.

To understand this better you have to discard your understanding of locality and that your perceptions and experiences of time and space are largely illusions made by your brain to explain the input you're getting. There is no real such thing as "That thing is far away" it's more like "there's an informational rule how much time/space is between this event and that event."

I recommend PBS Spacetime, they did a lot of videos about the idea but they can be a bit heavy if you haven't caught up a little on entropy and time/space diagrams and black holes.

[-] discocactus@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Pshhh I figured this out when I was 17 the first time I took psychedelics.

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 weeks ago

De sitter space and anti de sitter space took me a while to grok as it relates to all this stuff

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 0 points 3 weeks ago

My intellect level is dipshit: do you know a good source for me to study and learn about this?

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

I would consider backing up and learning to walk before you try to run, once you grasp the really difficult concepts surrounding this, when the concepts combine these much larger models it feels a lot more humbling and awe inspiring.

One of the better entry level docu-series is The History of the Universe series on youtube for when I just want to listen to the stories of how and what we learned and it goes over the materials many times in pretty simple ways. Since every idea and discovery is connected there's no wrong place to start.

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago

I would suggest nasa.gov

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