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"[Putin] does not stop stressing what he's really longing for, like, a renaissance of the Soviet empire," Pistorius said of Putin. "He wants to be the dominant power in Europe. [...]"

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Germany's biggest defense contractor, Rheinmetall, and its subsidiaries have won a commanding share of recent government contracts.

Twitter: Germany is now rebuilding its military, and Rheinmetall is building and expanding 13 arms factories across Europe.

[60 Minutes Video]

Rheinmetall was one of Germany's major arms producers during WWI and WWII.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

why would the europeans do a war if the US told them not to?

European politicians openly recognise that the relationship between the EU and the US is adversarial now.

A significant split is occurring and EU wants to go its own way. I've been saying for months now that this was coming, that these people were saying this behind closed doors over a year ago, now it is moving into public.

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago

The Europeans are pissy about Trump treating them as bad as other American vassals but they do not want to go their own way, they simply want to go back to the halcyon days of polite liberal harmony right before Trump was elected.

I would find it easier to believe in the European elite's desire for increased autonomy if all of that military spending went to domestic or third country arms manufacturers but as long as the money is shipped to American and "Israeli" arms manufacturers it is a tribute that reaffirms European subservience to Washington.

Even if European rulers wanted autonomy they would not be able to have it. Europe has made itself too dependent on America, not just in military matters but also in everything from financial systems, IT infrastructure and energy supply to culture and ideology.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That ”buy European” shit is so funny. What do you think is going to have more of a geopolitical impact, some people deciding to BuY EuRoPeAn, or most European countries agreeing to raise defense spending to 5% of GDP because of NATO?

Besides, we saw some of this during Trump's first term (and Bush's time in office too), when a respectable adult biden-alert was in office again, all the US criticism evaporated.

[-] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago

The buy European shit is a way western Europeans can be racist to everyone else without being "barbaric racists, like the rural and urban poors" it's just white nationalism with a thick coat of 2016 liberalism

[-] MarmiteLover123@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

The problem with buy European is what? Europe doesn't produce a stealth fighter like the F-35 currently. As for air defence, SAMP/T's Aster 30 series interceptors are adequate for defence against ballistic missiles, but the radar is inadequate, so Europe has to wait for SAMP/T NG to match PATRIOT PAC-3 and PAC-3 MSE. Air defence against longer range ballistics like Oreshnik, only the US and Israel in the western sphere of influence make systems for that, and Germany has bought the Israeli Arrow 3 because it's cheaper than AEGIS ashore. Europe is not going to buy Chinese weapons for the most part. I guess the plan is to buy US weapons until the European equivalents are online, but that's going to take a decade minimum.

[-] Euergetes@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago

the only reason European "interests" are in defending an ever eastward 'front' against Russia are because of the US! if the EU was actually interested in pursuing an independent path they'd start by investigating and rectifying nordstream.

it's all bluster and kayfabe from a euro ruling class utterly inextricable from US dominance.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 6 points 1 week ago

Talking about rebuilding nordstream is a non-starter until the war is over. You can't construct a pipeline during a war.

[-] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 2 points 1 week ago

But the European ruling class don't want to end the war, they want to extend it for the sake of American interests

[-] shane@feddit.nl 1 points 1 week ago

What do you mean by "end the war"? Remove support for Ukraine so they are defeated?

[-] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 4 points 1 week ago

They could have reached a ceasefire years ago but borris johnson made sure that didn't happen

In 2022 borris Johnson went to Ukraine and talked zelensky out of taking it

[-] built_on_hope@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago

Is it real or is it just bluster because Trump is unpopular among the European electorate? I seem to remember them making similar noises when the tariffs came in and then quietly completely capitulating

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago

It's real in that they do not want to be US vassals. It's popular because of Trump. It's not going to be quick or easy though with how reliant upon the US militarily. The push to build a bigger EU military is not because they believe in war with Russia being likely, it is because they recognise how much it fucked them, the US bombed nordstream and the EU just had to take it because they had no choice. It was either pander to the US or suffer economic ruin without oil and gas that is now shipped via boats from the US.

[-] Hyper_red@hexbear.net 5 points 1 week ago

European liberal leaders aren't actually adversarial to trump.

They only pretend to be for their population.

Behind closed doors they're 100% doing everything he asks and is sucking him off

They all instantly bent over when Trump told them to buy more American arms and cut their social welfare for if

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